SC man shoots/ kills home intruder


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Sportcat
August 24, 2004, 09:06 AM
And it looks like there will be no charges (duh!:rolleyes: )

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2212377&nav=0RaMQB4j

(Hardeeville-AP) Aug. 24, 2004 - Prosecutors are reviewing whether a 28-year-old Hardeeville man was justified for shooting someone who appeared to be breaking into his home.

Jasper County Sheriff's Deputies say the man shot the intruder early Monday morning shortly after his security alarm sounded and someone kicked in the door.

Authorities say 32-year-old Michael Jenkins was shot in the leg and face and died about four hours later.

Legal experts doubt the man will face any charges in the shooting because South Carolina's self-defense laws are more lenient than other states.

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GEM
August 24, 2004, 11:14 AM
http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/news/3674609/detail.html

Check this one out. It's very sad and a good cautionary tale.

Ric
August 24, 2004, 11:30 AM
I'm glad he's OK and I hope his family deals with it well.
I also hope the family of the "victim, who was just starting to get his life together/ looking forward to the future/ wouldn't have hurt anybody/ just starting to turn his life around/ Looked forward to the birth of his child/ or any other such c#%p" doesn't sue.

Andrew Rothman
August 24, 2004, 12:58 PM
Legal experts doubt the man will face any charges in the shooting because South Carolina's self-defense laws are more lenient than other states.

Lenient? :rolleyes:

How about "fair" or "moral" or "sensible?"

ny32182
August 24, 2004, 01:06 PM
Thats my state!:D

We even have a halo rule here. If someone is on your property within a certain distance of a door or window, they are considered to be in your house...

WT
August 24, 2004, 02:29 PM
Anybody know what firearm/ammo the shooter used?

Edmond
August 24, 2004, 02:56 PM
Here in Illinois, they actually tried to charge that guy who shot an intruder. Only in Illinois...:rolleyes:

BeLikeTrey
August 24, 2004, 02:58 PM
EXACTLY!
Dang this wording game gets real transparent once you are shown how it works. I really attribute that aquired skill to you guys on this board. I must admit that I was never that aware but now see throught it immediately and even point it out to others.

I really wanted to :barf: when i read that EXACT word.

BeLikeTrey
August 24, 2004, 03:07 PM
Isn't that what's called curtiledge (sp?)? Our CCW class went into depth (this was a few years back and I need to revisit that section). I think it was determined by whether business can be conducted (door to door stuff or visitors coming going- basically front porch thing...) on this portion of your property. Then it was more public than other portions like say, your back porch. Still seemed a little "legally vague" to me when I studied that portion. Is that what we were talking about?

pwrtool45
August 24, 2004, 04:00 PM
...someone who appeared to be breaking into his home.

Jasper County Sheriff's Deputies say the man shot the intruder...shortly after his security alarm sounded and someone kicked in the door.

Yeah. The confusion is understandable. I mean, people kick my door in for completely mundane purposes all the time. I don't see why the guy had to get all uppity and shoot somebody. I mean, the other gentleman was probably just gonna try and sell some girlscout cookies or take a donation for the "I'm more important than you are and your life is worthless to me" foundation.

If there were no guns, we could all be victimized equally. That's what this is all about. Gun owners just don't want to be victims like the rest of us. You people just don't want to be part of the village!

Sportcat
August 24, 2004, 04:03 PM
You people just don't want to be part of the village!

Looks like one village is in need of a new idiot, there's just died of lead poisoning!:D

ny32182
August 24, 2004, 04:37 PM
Isn't that what's called curtiledge (sp?)? Our CCW class went into depth (this was a few years back and I need to revisit that section). I think it was determined by whether business can be conducted (door to door stuff or visitors coming going- basically front porch thing...) on this portion of your property. Then it was more public than other portions like say, your back porch. Still seemed a little "legally vague" to me when I studied that portion. Is that what we were talking about?

I'm not sure what the rule is called, nor do I remember the exact details... I think the distance was 15 feet from any door or window. Of course there have to be more details, as that law as written would allow you to shoot anyone you don't know coming up to ring your doorbell, and that simply can't be the case...

CWP class was where I heard about it too. Its been a while...

Standing Wolf
August 24, 2004, 06:24 PM
...32-year-old Michael Jenkins was shot in the leg and face and died about four hours later.

A nickel says he's learned his lesson, and won't do that again.

Shadowman
August 24, 2004, 07:04 PM
The "lenient" remark looks to have come from the AP. I interpret this as
anonymous people because they provide no contact info. I guess anomalous putrefaction would work as well :fire:

T.F.H
August 24, 2004, 07:54 PM
curtiledge is any out bilding or other property you maintain.

thats wat the cops told me anyway .

they said you couldnt put a bilding in the woods and call it curtiledge

TODD:cool:

BeLikeTrey
August 25, 2004, 07:43 AM
Main Entry: cur·ti·lage
Pronunciation: 'k&r-t&l-ij
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French cortillage, from cortil courtyard, from cort court
: a piece of ground (as a yard or courtyard) within the fence surrounding a house

Browns Fan
August 25, 2004, 07:58 AM
You can bet that if someone kicks in my door, they'll get the same type of greeting.

:eek:

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