Is it legal to ride a motorcycle with an AK on your back in Oregon?


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joey93turbo
August 27, 2004, 03:40 PM
I'm gonna buy an SAR1 from a buddy for $200 today. Problem is I dont have a car, and he doesn't drive. I ride my motorcycle everywhere. I know it's probaby not a good idea, but i'm wondering if it's illegal to throw the sling over my shoulder and ride with it (unloaded of course). Anyone know? Thoughts?

*flame suit on just in case*

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jobu07
August 27, 2004, 03:47 PM
Well, I dunno if it's legal. But one things for sure. It'l sure look cool! :cool:

natedog
August 27, 2004, 03:48 PM
Maybe you could take the stock off, and stick it in a saddle bag?

joey93turbo
August 27, 2004, 03:50 PM
It's a CBR600 F4i, I dont have saddlebags :(

Darkside
August 27, 2004, 04:00 PM
Roll it up really good in a sleeping bag or blanket tie a rope sling on it and ride away.

You might get some funny looks but people won't know whats inside.

You can probably think of some more "Urban Camo" methods.:D

Using "urban camo"(brown paper bag) I have carried a firearm many places.

You might be better off getting a soft gun case:)

Darkside

RooK
August 27, 2004, 04:01 PM
$10 says you get pulled over, legal or not. That would be rather amusing to see while driving down the road. Do they make any kind of addon containers for sport bikes? Or what about using one from a touring bike?

WhiteKnight
August 27, 2004, 04:05 PM
http://www.poster.net/terminator/terminator-2-bike-and-gun-4001613.jpg

But do you have sunglasses and a leather jacket? :D

clipse
August 27, 2004, 04:05 PM
My father in law and I went to the shooting range on our dirt bikes. He took his Colt AR-15 strapped to his back. We were on dirt roads most of the time and got quite a few really big smiles and alot of waves. I gotta picture of it somewhere.


clipse

joey93turbo
August 27, 2004, 04:05 PM
i thought about wrapping it, but that'd probably be bulky, i'd prefer to use the stock sling.

they do make addon containers, but this is a one time thing just to get it home. it's 30 miles tho :(

R.H. Lee
August 27, 2004, 04:07 PM
It would look especially cool if you grew a beard and wear a headscarf and white robe. :p

Treylis
August 27, 2004, 04:08 PM
From reading packing.org, it seems to be legal.

Darkside
August 27, 2004, 04:09 PM
May not hurt to contact you local PD. and let them know what is going on. If this is in a urban area I am sure they will be getting some calls.:) They may also let you know about the legality of it.


Darkside

Can'thavenuthingood
August 27, 2004, 04:14 PM
While looking cool and having every right to carry in this fashion. I think in the big city of Portland you are identifying yourself as a target. Both from the BG's and the LEO's.

In our current society I would expect the police to pull you over and check you out. They don't know you from Adam, you are pretty much asking them to stop you. It's unusual to see someone riding a bike and visibly carrying a weapon, not an everyday occurance like it might be in the country.

Also the bad guys. While your 2 hands are busy with bike control you are easy pickin's.

Wrap it up or find a ride.

Vick

R.H. Lee
August 27, 2004, 04:21 PM
Seriously, dude, wrap it up and bungee it alongside the seat. You're just asking for a world of hurt otherwise. :)

Bravo11
August 27, 2004, 04:24 PM
I'd call the PD and ask if it were OK. If they say yes then get the name of the officer you spoke to. Then go for it. Take out the mag and do everything right. It would definitely look cool.
At one time we(Ark) had a law that said long guns had to be cased inside a vehicle but that law was repealed. I don't know about motorcycles.

hksw
August 27, 2004, 04:44 PM
Bring a (big enough) towel or two and some packaging tape with you. Wrap the gun up in the towel(s) and tape it up leaving the sling free for use.

gaston_45
August 27, 2004, 05:56 PM
If you are in Portland do not even consider openly carrying it this way. While in high school a buddy and I used to catch a ride with his father to work and then walk from there to where we went duck hunting, one of Astoria's finest stopped us once. He just checked to see if we had the guns loaded, then told us they had reports of cats being shot in the area and let us get to our hunting. Of course this was over a decade ago so it may have changed since then. The easiest way is to get a soft case, heck, they are a good idea anyway to protect the gun if you have to lay the bike down.

dairycreek
August 27, 2004, 05:56 PM
I know of no Oregon law that would preclude you from riding on your motorcycle with the AK - as long as its not loaded. I am an Oregonian and my first question is where will you be riding when you take the AK home? I am sure that you know the local area enough to be aware of the local situations. As a matter of protection I would carry the AK in some sort of rifle case - more to protect the weapon from rain and dirt than to conceal it. But covering it up wouldn't be a bad idea either. Hope things work out. Good shooting;)

PAC 762
August 27, 2004, 06:07 PM
I carry longarms on my sportbike (aprilia RSV). I take the cowl off and put the passenger seat on, then use a soft case with a shoulder strap and strap it across my back. Just keep the strap tight and you'll be fine.

David4516
August 27, 2004, 06:08 PM
Depends on the area... in the city it's a bad idea for sure... but in a rural (spelling?) area I dout anyone would care.

But a gun case would be a good idea anyway, to keep the gun dry :p

AK103K
August 27, 2004, 06:49 PM
You can always get one of these:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid107/p74be7711d93153a5deffce1779d98727/f95d7aa7.jpg

Russian drop/transport case made for the AK, you can use the sling attached to the rifle or tuck it inside if you dont want it to show. It also carries two mags in an inside pocket. I keep my SAR in one and its in my truck in pretty much plain sight and no one has asked what it is in over three years now. :)

Deavis
August 27, 2004, 07:30 PM
if you have to lay the bike down.

It shouldn't bother me but it does. Nobody lays a bike down because they want to, they lay it down because they got into a situation that they couldn't handle. A bike will always stop, manuever, and accelerate betteron two wheels, laying it down to avoid the crash is a myth and excuse.

Now, as for the weapon. I rode home (I'm in Texas) from the FFL once with an AR on my back. Nobody stopped me and I passed an HPD patrol car. When I was in Oklahoma for a summer I asked the local PD about it and they asked me not to do it. I never shot the rifle so it wasn't an issue but I'm not sure it was illegal.

PAC 762
August 27, 2004, 07:44 PM
Nobody lays a bike down because they want to, they lay it down because they got into a situation that they couldn't handle. A bike will always stop, manuever, and accelerate betteron two wheels, laying it down to avoid the crash is a myth and excuse.

+1 !

CGofMP
August 27, 2004, 08:21 PM
I am in California.
I have NO idea what the laws are there.

20 years ago I'd saddle up on my motorcycle and ride the 6 miles to the range through city streets and on to the expressway, then thru a little bit of mountain road.

No muss no fuss no problem. Never was stopped.

I'd never do that now. Doubt its legal anymore and the paranoia of the PD would get a gun screwed in my ear till they sorted it out.

I have carried an incredible number of things on a 400 cc Rice burner. Once carried over 250 punds of ground beef on the back of it and on the tank for a restaurant I worked for. A rifle is by contrast 100 times simpler.

Simply wrap it in a sleeping bag, bungie it HARD to the back seet and if you can do so without bendding it perhaps even a bit under your own butt and then let it extend off the bak of the bike over the taillamp. Use lots of bungee cords and it will be less likely to be pulled off by some AH trying to steal whatever that thing is.

You can put a red flag on it like you would for lumber as well... probably a good idea anyhow.

Ignore this whole thing if you have one of those single seaters that look like a BIG tricycle eat and also have no little luggage rack.

Take care,
Charles

joey93turbo
August 27, 2004, 09:21 PM
hey guys, thanks for all the responses. one of my friends came through in the clutch and gave me a ride out there to get it, so i didnt have to ride with it. as cool as that would have looked, i'd rather avoid these rookie gresham police if at all possible.

Harry Tuttle
August 27, 2004, 09:31 PM
is it legal to ride with an electric guitar?
http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/DaisyRockBagBig.jpg


:D

gunsmith
August 28, 2004, 12:05 AM
laying it down to avoid the crash is a myth and excuse.

I was riding a bike,a yamaha radian 650. this guy makes an illegal left turn into my path even though I was only going 30 ish I hit the brakes,fishtailed and I had to either lay the bike down or hit the car.
I put it down to aviod collision.

As far as riding with an AK,try a big old army duffle bag,maybe it will fit in that,or a guitar case.
I used to drive a MC with a gun case over my shoulder all the time in Frisco and never had a problem

Michael Zeleny
August 28, 2004, 01:12 AM
Please do not ride a motorcycle with a steel bar strapped across your spine.

Kodiak AK
August 28, 2004, 07:15 PM
Harry . I actually usa a TKL soft case as my range bag for my AR .
Spend the $20 for in the future man . It is well worth it .

Texian Pistolero
August 28, 2004, 07:28 PM
Do NOT call local PD!

Just camo and do it.

No big deal.

While there are good PD out there,

the odds are fifty/fifty you'll get Little Lord Fauntelroy.

I don't usually flame, but I've got to question the judgement of anyone who suggests calling local PD.

Been there, done that , got the tshirt.

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