Go nuke this .gov site and show them what we think.


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KarlPMann
February 19, 2003, 11:36 PM
Ready.gov (http://www.ready.gov/). We were discussing this government site on another board when someone had noticed that our good old gov. neglected to include "arms" as a tool to have to help prevent terrorism. Go to the site and use the feedback at the bottom center of the page to let the gov. know how you feel about this. In the past I've seen polls on the net that were around for a week get near 75-100,000 total responses with as many as 75-80,000 being pro gun. If we post this on every gun board out there, maybe we can get the same message straight to the would be leaders of ours. Karl.

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homeka45
February 19, 2003, 11:57 PM
Done, although I wonder if I'm now on some file in the DHS's database. Oh well if the fecal matter slams into the impeller blades maybe they'll be too busy to bother with little old me.

Tamara
February 20, 2003, 12:02 AM
I asked them if a well-regulated militia was still necessary to the security of a free state and, if so, why "arms" weren't on the recommended list of emergency supplies.

AZTOY
February 20, 2003, 12:05 AM
Mail sent but i didn't give my name or e-mail .:scrutiny:

KarlPMann
February 20, 2003, 01:53 AM
Good going people. Every e-mail counts. When they start counting up the number of people saying the same thing, maybe then it will sink in. Karl. :evil:

4570Rick
February 20, 2003, 04:38 AM
Where is the call for all firearms owners to hone their skills and keep vigilant.

:banghead:

Art Eatman
February 20, 2003, 07:33 AM
My effort:

"While individual confrontation with any terrorist is unlikely, it can happen, and personal self-defense is then necessary. Unless We The People are regarded by Government as incompetent (But what is the source of government's employees?), advice should be made available as to arms, training in usage, and training as to rational and lawful behavior."

I luvvit when I can smile ever so sweetly and infer that my audience is possibly composed of a pack of fools, don't you? :D

Art

The Nip
February 20, 2003, 07:47 AM
It's just my humble opinion, but you probably shouldn't use the words "nuke," "gov" and "site" in the same sentence online. All these kinds of boards need are further scrutiny by gun-grabber federal agents.

Dammit...but I just did exactly that, didn't I?


NIP

AnklePocket
February 20, 2003, 08:41 AM
"Since it's my opinion that the armed, law abiding citizen is our first line of defense, it's also my opinion that the 2nd Amendment IS homeland security. Please pass this notion onto the lawmakers of New Jersey, where many terrorists probably are, so that we may possibly restore our 2nd Amendment Rights."

Lone_Gunman
February 20, 2003, 08:47 AM
I will play the devil's advocate here for a few minutes.

The ready.gov site appears to deal with nuclear, radiation, chemical and biological terrorism. It doesn't seem to deal with the inevitable civil unrest that would follow, or terrorists running around shooting people randomly with guns, etc.

So I will ask, how relevant is having a firearm to dealing with the specific kind of threats that site deals with?

A 1911 isnt going to do much good against a dirty bomb, is it?

The site is giving advice on how to deal with issues directly related to chemical, biological, and nuclear attacks. No more, no less. Firearms dont really figure into that equation.

After 9/11, there was a surge of new first time gun buyers. Buying a gun to protect yourself against 757's flying into really tall buildings doesnt make much sense to me either.

Keith_Yorktown
February 20, 2003, 08:48 AM
Of course, the Ready.gov site isn't about preventing terrorism, so much as it is preparing our fellow citizens for the possible effects of a terrorist attack.

Now firearms may have a place there, if looting and rioting were to occur, but that's not something I see the government telling the general population (no matter how many people you get to slam their site.)

Hopefully you wont overload the site and cause concerned people to be unprepared.

Greg L
February 20, 2003, 09:08 AM
Part of being prepared is being able to survive the afteramth. I agree that there isn't a whole lot you can do if a dirty bomb goes off next door. The point though is that given the mental state of the sheeple out there there will be social unrest. One would hope that we as a group would pull together but it wouldn't be a bad idea to be ready in case we didn't.

Greg

jsalcedo
February 20, 2003, 09:43 AM
Email: fatherbohab@sweeet.net
State: Texas
Category: Usefulness of Information
Feedback: You forgot one of the most important
devices that can prevent and protect against terrorism. Firearms.

Israeli citizens have on numerous occasions stopped suicide bombers with their legally carried handguns.

Arming oneself against looters, rioters
and those bent on taking advantage of the mayhem caused by a terrorist attack would also be prudent and well advised.

I hope that omitting guns from your readiness kit was just an oversight and not just a silly political correctness
ploy.

Sincerely,
JSalcedo

KarlPMann
February 20, 2003, 10:08 AM
Lots of good responses, keep up the good work. Karl. :D

WS42
February 20, 2003, 11:30 AM
Here is what I wrote: It is sad to see that American’s would rather cower like sheep than to defend their home and the United States against foreign aggressors. The Constitution of the United States contains what is needed for homeland security and that is the 2nd amendment to the Bill of Rights.

P12
February 20, 2003, 01:15 PM
Well I sent them a message but can't paste it here.

Dang PC crashed and lost it from the clipboard.


So be it.

KarlPMann
February 21, 2003, 02:05 AM
Makes you feel like :banghead: and :cuss: huh. Keep hitting this one people. Karl.

Lancel
February 21, 2003, 03:06 AM
I simply said, "Safe storage and operation of firearms should be taught and recommended."

Larry

Pilgrim
February 21, 2003, 12:28 PM
My input to their feedback page.


No recommendation to stock up on weapons and ammunition? I take it you expect law enforcement services to be 100% effective even when all other services are put out of action or rendered ineffective.

You guys are dreamers.

Bruce Stanton

Sam Adams
February 21, 2003, 01:43 PM
Here's my response:


You folks seem to have forgotten that the best defense
against a terrorist act is to prevent it in the first place. Since
we (thankfully) do not have 10 or 20 million law enforcement
personnel in this country, the citizenry must be relied upon to
provide notification and, if necessary, armed force against
terrorists caught in the act of committing an act of terrorism.
This requires firearms, and the ability of citizens to carry them
in public without fear of being locked up in jail. In case you
think that the citizenry stopping terrorists is a fantasy, check
out the Israeli experience, where literally hundreds of
incidents EACH YEAR are stopped by armed citizens well
before security personnel can get to the scene.

I hope that omitting guns from your readiness kit was just an
oversight and not due to political correctness. Your fellow
citizens are not paying your salary in order to be treated like
a bunch of children. Further, it would be wise to consider the
population base from which all of you and all of the others
responsible for our security come.

AmericanFreeBird
February 21, 2003, 01:43 PM
I emailed them as well and gave them my name and email address.

Molon Labe! :neener:

MudPuppy
February 18, 2007, 08:30 PM
With the gift of hindsight, I'm raising this old thread.

I saw the billboard that scared me into going to www.ready.gov. With the real world experience of Katrina behind us, does anyone think that if they did everything recommended (but nothing extra, like say, arming yourself against criminal aggression) that you'd have made out okay in the aftermath of that civil AND GOVERNMENT collapse?

I heard those people were eating each other after two days...while that doesn't appear to have actually happened, I'd hate to be eaten for the lack of shooting back.

rhubarb
February 19, 2007, 09:33 AM
Dear Ready.gov,

I sincerely thank you for your work preparing Americans for possible disasters.

I am disconcerted, however, at your oversight in excluding firearms or other defensive tools from you list of items that Americans should prepare in case of emergency. We have all through our history been a nation of citizens with arms at hand in case of unrest. This is a critical part of preparing oneself and one's family in case of a terrorist attack, natural disaster, or other cataclysmic event that forces a family from the home. Firearms are useful for defending the homeland, defending the family from crime, and putting food on the table.

Please remedy this exclusion in your list.

Patriotically yours,
Rube Barb;)

MD_Willington
February 19, 2007, 01:12 PM
You realize they can see the redirects from this forum in the server logs right?

Anyway... yes they did omit firearms, reason is they can boss you around if you're unarmed, making your family a small piece of their "management" system.

Effectively your fellow citizens have turned you into a widget that must be cataloged and placed into its appropriate container.

;)

robert garner
February 19, 2007, 02:58 PM
I, too signed mine, asked if they didn't TRUST Americans to be armed?
To paraphrase a great American,when he was being inspected,injected,
selected and neglected, somewhere there is a file on me!
robert garner

doubleg
February 19, 2007, 04:54 PM
Rediculous.. Armed people are very hard to completely control. The goverment couldn't control their every action.:p

arthurcw
February 19, 2007, 06:25 PM
They will never (repeat NEVER!) put anything on Ready.gov about firearms. Why?

Let’s say you are the bureaucrat that has to OK the firearms copy on the website. You put all kinds of disclaimers and warnings about proper training and learning your local laws. You stress the importance safety and more safety and even more safety incumbent upon anyone who intends to keep a firearm for protection. You are about to put your stamp of approval on this well thought out and lawyer proof copy.

Your mind wanders.

You get a vision in you head of a $70 hair cut with porcelain veneers in a suit talking about the “Tragedy of these poor kids who were slain while just trying to take cover from the rain/wind/fallout.” The hair cut then says, “Further information provided by officials claims that the murderous homeowner learned about keeping a firearm for protection on The Government’s own disaster site, Ready.gov.” You can then see more haircuts in suits swarming your office demanding to know why you thought it was appropriate to tell people in stressful situations that is was OK to murder their fellow tragedy survivors. You see your Civil Service rear end reassigned to traveling the country inspecting livestock for Mad Cow Disease. You quickly shred the copy and reassign the person who suggested this insanity to be someone else’s problem.


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