Remington 22 Jet


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Tom Held
August 29, 2004, 10:51 AM
I'm new to this forum (mostly a shotgun and rifle shooter) but could use some information from the pistol experts here. I just purchased a Smith and Wesson Model 53, 22 Remington Jet with the 8 1/2 barrel. I would rate the gun as 99% condition. About 100 rounds of Remington ammo came with the gun. Can anyone give me a source of additional ammo? I have not fired it yet but I understand it is "interesting".

Any opinions on this piece would be appreciated. Thank you.

Tom Held

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Jim Watson
August 29, 2004, 12:15 PM
An *interesting* revolver. Yes, indeed.

You can get the most information on it over at
www.smith-wessonforum.com

I haven't a clue as to where to get ammo. If you are not a pretty advanced handloader, it is going to be expensive to shoot.

Jason Demond
August 29, 2004, 06:19 PM
Old Western Scrounger (http://www.ows-ammunition.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi)

It's not cheap, @ 21.50 per 20 rounds.

If you didn't get one with your revolver, you can get a .22 LR ADAPTER, so you can shoot .22 LR ammunition through your Jet.

James Bondrock
August 29, 2004, 11:18 PM
The .22 Remington Jet is supposed to acheive nearly 2,000 fps muzzle velocity with a 45-grain bullet. It is a necked-down and gradually tapering .357 Magnum case; if you handload you can form cases from same, which might be a better option than shooting up original Remington ammo. I am not sure if it was standard or an option, but you could get little aluminum chamber inserts that allowed you to fire .22 Long Rifle cartridges in the Jet chambers. If you shoot it (although this is a collectible gun, a modest amount of shooting is not going to hurt it), be aware of a major potential problem. Under recoil, the tapered case thrusts rearward against the revolver's recoil shield and can prevent the cylinder from rotating. This can be minimized by keeping the chambers absolutely and completely free of any oil, so the case grips the chamber wall slightly. A volatile fast-drying gun cleaning solvent like Gun Scrubber should work, and lighter fluid used to be recommended as well. This problem caused the M53 to die an early death, marketing and sales wise. The report from this round is supposed to be extremely loud and piercing.

Tom Held
August 30, 2004, 09:18 AM
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the information. I do appreciate it. It never occured to me to hang on to the original Remington ammo boxes and some of the original ammo that came with the gun. I'll have to shop around at some of the local gun shows coming up this fall to see if I can find additional Jet ammo and the 22 caliber cylinder.

This revolver appears to have been very well made. The trigger is excellent, as good or better than those on my Pythons.

Tom Held

Hand_Rifle_Guy
August 30, 2004, 04:58 PM
Firstus, the M-53 doesn't have a 22 LR cylinder, what's available are lathe-turned chamber inserts that accept rimfire ammo. The M-53 has a two-position adjustable firing pin to accomodate center- vs. rim-fire. The inserts aren't made of aluminum, either, more like some kind of low-magnetic stainless steel. (They might just be nickel plated steel, however.) They're recessed in the back to make space for the rim, and about 30% of the insert's .357-sized rim has been machined away to allow you to extract the rimfire cases with a fingernail, or some such.

IF you could find 'em. I can't imagine 'em being anything like common or readily available. M-53's are pretty rare, and they're the ONLY platform that'd use such devices, and all of 'em came from S&W with a set. Finding the long-lost missing set for your gun is probably possible, but it'd be mucho expensive, I'd think.

Ah, but that's where serendipity (A fortunate accident.) comes in. While cleaning out a house formerly owned by a gunsmith/engineer that a friend bought, I found a can fulla miscellaneous gun-bits and chunks of metal.

Closer examination of the contents revealed a .22 Rem. Jet case, and two .22 rimfire-adapter chamber inserts for a S&W M-53.

Now, this for me was initialy somewhat of a dillema. Owning these little jewels would have mandated that I, as a gun collector of serious bent, forthwith go out and track down a Model 53 to add to my collection. My collection habit would have made this impossible for me to avoid. (It's got a grip on me, this collecting thing. :rolleyes: )

Now, right at the moment, I can in no way afford an obscure, expensive, highly collectable S&W revolver. These chamber adapters would therefore have driven me slightly nuts just by being around in my possesion. I already have 20-25 different guns on my 'buy-it-RIGHT-NOW' list, and most of those cost a lot less than a Model 53. It was a problem. Sigh...

Ok, quick, while the gun-bug's not paying any attention. Two is not six, but it's a lot better than none, and you get to run your gun on cheaper ammo, PLUS you have a sample to take to a machine shop to have four more (Or maybe ten more. Two sets.) inserts made up, presuming you can't find 'em somewheres. Having 'em made from scratch has gotta be comparable to buying originals, if not cheaper. Heck, the more you have made, the cheaper they get, each.

So, feel like doing me a favor, and providing a good home for these little jewels? Sending 'em off to you will save me a few hundred bucks. I'll throw in the single Rem. Jet case I've got, also, just fer yucks.

Right. Now for the ugly part. This is gonna cost. I've got you over a barrel, and I'm chortling with glee about it. You want these? Your gonna have to send me a pre-stamped padded envelope with your address on it!

With that final, vital component, my evil plan to Dominate The Known World SHALL COME TO IT'S ULTIMATE FRUITION!!! ALL WILL YIELD BEFORE ME!! Muhwahahahahah!! :evil::evil::evil:...

...

...Or not.

:uhoh: Uh, Sorry. Got a little behind on the dosage today, heh, eh-heh. :uhoh: Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...:rolleyes:

Wierdness and insanity aside, I WILL happily trot these adapters right on out to you on the other side of the country for not a cent. Free. Gratis. You just have to put 'em to use, I guess.

And forgive me for writing like a Left Coast Lunatic. Hey, I live in the PRK. If I didn't vent a little steam now and again, I'd explode. I'm sure you understand out in MD, after all. You've got your own version of state idiocy to put up with...But I digress.

Send me a PM with your address, (You don't HAVE to send out the envelope. I've got one.) and I'll plunk in the mail, post-haste, as it were. You oughta have 'em in-hand inside of a week.

Interested?

;)

Jim Watson
August 30, 2004, 05:40 PM
Smith DID make .22 lr conversion cylinders for the M53. So far as I know, only sold with the gun in kind of a deluxe package. The box liner has a place for it, just not punched out in boxes of guns sold without.

So far as I know, all that did not have the lr cylinder came with inserts.

You might could find some from a collector with extras but they won't be cheap, they only sent six with each gun, and I never heard of spares.

But...
Numrich has had some run off so you can plink:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=880940&chrSuperSKU=&MC=

Still not cheap $12 EACH if you buy six.

Maybe you can piece together a set from Hand and others.

Gordon
August 30, 2004, 10:32 PM
I retired my 8 3/8" early M-53, yes I have inserts, no never found the .22lr cylinder. I did find a M-48 .22mag cylinder which I got turned down when I asked tohave it fitted by a smart gunsmith who realized that the .22mag has a .224 bore and the .22 Jet (and .22lr ) have .222 bores!:o

fdwags
December 16, 2008, 02:47 PM
Tom I have 3 boxes of origional ammo for the 22 Jet and 4 boxes minus 2 rounds of once fired brass, I also have a set of reloading dies (3 die set). I don't have the model 53 any more so have no need for these. Let me know if you might be interested in them.

SwampWolf
December 16, 2008, 03:45 PM
Smith DID make .22 lr conversion cylinders for the M53. So far as I know, only sold with the gun in kind of a deluxe package. The box liner has a place for it, just not punched out in boxes of guns sold without.

Very true. Years ago, my brother purchased the "deluxe" version and it had a factory- fitted auxiliary cylinder for the .22 rimfire, along with the standard inserts. I always liked the gun but, unfortunately, my brother sold it without giving me a chance to buy it from him. :(

publiuss
December 16, 2008, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't shoot it, it's just too scarce and valuable. But, if you are strictly a shooter and not a collector, use mild loads,that bottleneck case likes to impact the recoil shield. No good for gun.

Gordon
December 16, 2008, 08:44 PM
Bunch of stuff about being hard on gun! The hotter loads actually swell the cases better to keep from setting back and locking up the cylinder, which lube residue also promotes. I have been shooting the M-53 since the 60s. I still shoot this one with little gun and 45 grain Hornadies at 2100 fps quite a bit.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/P10104150001.jpg

camaro
August 8, 2009, 02:52 AM
22 jet mag, mod 53, 98% condition, 7 boxes ammo, dies, 4 box empty, with inserts, $2200.00

woad_yurt
October 11, 2009, 10:31 AM
I came across this Gunbroker listing today. It's a set of 6 inserts and I thought someone may be interested:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=142533642

Blazer406
March 13, 2011, 03:17 AM
Warning.... OLD THREAD BUMP.....

I got one I got from my father..... who bought it new for a guy in our deercamp..... he then bought it back from him later.... along with 2 boxes of remington ammo that was bought with the gun originally..... probably seen less than a dozen 22 Jet bullets through it.... and a few 22LR bullets through it using the inserts.

I have the original box.... and mine did come with the extra cylinder.... I think it is marked 22 magnum...... looks like a regular 22 cylinder to me.... the box is cut out for it as well.....and the inserts.

As my sour luck would have it..... I'm missing 1 insert.... that I lost :cuss:

I would love to run across another original SS insert for cheap..... like Hand_Rifle_Guy mentions.

I see a set of 5 on gunbroker now.... currently sitting at $38 for 5..... I only need 1 to complete my set....

rcmodel
March 13, 2011, 02:05 PM
Gun Parts was offering repro inserts, but they are currently sold out.

Might check with them to see if there will be any more.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=880940&filter=880940

rc

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