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Ash August 31, 2004, 08:18 AM I literally found this in the street today. It is a 40 S&W barrel with cut rifling and no marks other than caliber on it. It looks something like a Glock barrel (except for the rifling) but the notch where the recoil spring engages the lug is squared, not rounded. I was wondering if it might be a Glock aftermarket cut barrel, but cannot say. Anyway, its not a Ruger, Bersa, RAP, CZ, or SIG barrel as far as I can tell. Of course, I could be wrong.
Ash
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Ktulu August 31, 2004, 08:23 AM Looks like an aftermarket Glock barrel.
ID_shooting August 31, 2004, 09:01 AM Compare it to a S&W sigma barrel.
You said you found it on the street!?!?!?
Someone tossing evidence of a crime?
owen August 31, 2004, 09:33 AM looks like a sigma or FN 40-9
Ash August 31, 2004, 10:07 AM I took it to a pawn shop and one of the fellows there put it in a Glock and it seemed to function and he kept saying that he thought it went to a preban Glock. I knew that was not the case as it has cut rifling and the case is fully supported. However, it does look very much like a Glock save for the squared front on the lug. That said, isn't the Sigma enough like a Glock that Glock sued them for patent infringement? The Sigma angle might be the answer, but as I don't have one (and there is not one for sale in my town), I don't have immediate access to one to break down.
Ash
Ash August 31, 2004, 10:10 AM Could be from a Crime. There have been no murders in my town lately (and none thus discovered). Because I live in a small town, they don't happen very often. I am keeping it uncleaned for a short while in case something does turn up. However, as it lacks a serial number, it would be nearly impossible to concretely link it to any pistol.
Ash
Heraclitus August 31, 2004, 12:28 PM it would be nearly impossible to concretely link it to any pistol.And yet I wonder. See those frame striations on the barrel? That's essentially a barcode. If the forensics lab can get a hold of the frame that housed it, a match wouldn't be that hard to establish.
Also, the cam's horrendous finish could mean that it's pirated.
Ash August 31, 2004, 02:15 PM Well, like I said it was in the street so many of those scratches are probably from pavement. I drove by it thinking it was a deep-well socket. Not ever wanting a tool to go to waste, I turned about to go check it out and realized it was a pistol barrel. So, I picked it up.
About 9 years ago, I found a Ruger P85 in the street perhaps 6 blocks from this barrel. I lifted it from the road using a napkin and only holding onto the trigger guard. I drove it to the police station and turned it in, with a promise from the police that, once the numbers were run and it was proven not to be stolen, they would hold onto it for 6 weeks and, if nothing turned up and nobody showed up to claim it, then it would be mine. Two months later, the city informed me that they would not give it back to me but were going to sell it at auction. I pitched a fit and explained that should anything like this happen again, I would have the numbers run for me and then keep the *&^% thing. Sure enough, a week later the pistol sold for $400 at the city auction (which also sold a tractor and some beater shotguns and rifles. Of course the city did not give me the money on the sale or anything. So, at this point, I am keeping it in case something does turn up in the local news. In a few months, I figure it'll make its way onto ebay or some such place. In no case will it find itself in the custody of the city.
Anyway, it remains an unknown barrel.
Ash
BeLikeTrey August 31, 2004, 02:24 PM If you found it, indeed it may well have been used in a crime or a careless disassembly of a gun.
Check inside the barrel for the type of rifling. .I'm leaning toward SIGMA right now.
Ash August 31, 2004, 02:38 PM Like I said, the rifling is cut (traditional) not polygonal. This is a very small town I live in an nobody has been murdered, shot, shot at, or robbed within the past month so who knows how it got where it got.
Ash
BeLikeTrey August 31, 2004, 02:47 PM That really stinks that the ruger was "misappropriated" from you. too bad the rest of this gun didn't show up with the barrel. I think if I had had that experience with the police force there, I would be hesitant to line their pockets as well. his is provided, that no shooting deaths had been reported with that caliber... Do like me and get an aquaintance to Run NCIC on it. I aquired a ruger 10-22 from an aquaintance, who I wasn't too sure about and had it run to be sure. made a note on the exact date and time run and kept that handy.
cidirkona August 31, 2004, 02:57 PM I'd turn it in to the police just to be safe if it were me. They could use bullet scrape markings out of that barrel and frame scratches to line up a firearm someone still has to a bullet used in a crime, possibly not even in your city... You might just be in the city they drove through to get out of the state...
-Colin
Ash August 31, 2004, 03:49 PM The barrel has no serial number and cannot be traced back to any pistol through a paper trail. I actually did show it to a sheriff's deputy who was at the pawn shop and he seemed pretty uninterested. Said he figured it belonged to a Smith and Wesson.
Ash
As to turning it it, that's probably the best thing to do. I suppose I'll contact the police about it anyway. I could get maybee $30 for it online anyway.
Grump August 31, 2004, 04:13 PM The fonts and ampersand on that barrel appear consistent with Smith and Wesson. I vote for Sigma barrel (like that matters:neener: ).
There really is law concerning "finders, keepers". It's yours until someone with superior title shows up. BTW, the city really doesn't count as having superior title when you are turning something in for "lost and found" purposes.
Ash August 31, 2004, 04:41 PM Oh, I know. I was informed by the city attorney that the police officer who filled out the paperwork did it in such a way as to make it a gift to the city. Now, the only paperwork I got was a reciept for the pistol stating date, time, and serial number.
I have to admit the police officer who arranged everything was polite and considerate and he told me later that if he were me, he'd never report anything again. He seemed just as irritated at the whole thing as I was.
Ash
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