[Michigander]

What kind of forms are there to fill out in order to purchase a blackpowder firearm, if any? Federal? Michigan? Certain stores?

Thanks in advance.

[Third_Rail]

Avoid Kittery Trading Post in Maine... even though it's perfectly legal and I'll shortly be getting one through mail, they wouldn't sell me a blackpowder pistol because I'm not 21. :rolleyes:

[only1asterisk]

There are no federal forms for blackpowder, unless the gun in question is like a T/C Encore. The reciever is identical to the cartridge version and can be converted by the end user. Why blackpowder revolvers don't follow the same restriction I don't know.


David

[JPM63US]

Federal law says a BP gun is not a firearm, so no federal forms. Until recently, a BP pistol was still considered a pistol in Michigan and subjected to the same rules as any pistol - this was changed over teh last Winter.

Best deals are usually mail order.

Black Powder is kind of hard to find sometimes - you can mail order that too from Maine Powderhouse.

JPM

[mcneill]

Call Dixie Gun Works, give them a credit card number, and in about a week or 10 days UPS will deliver your new black powder pistol to your front door.:cool: (At least that's the way it worked for me.)

Jim

[Old Fuff]

Double-check on those laws in Michigan. I believe that if you shoot a black-powder handgun (as opposed as keeping it as a collectable) you have to register it and get a safety certificate (green card). If so an officer might demand to see it, and if you didn't have one you might be in trouble.

[JPM63US]

Old Fluff - Until last year your were correct. Thanks to a very Pro-Gun State Rep. this is not longer the case. Just happened this year.

JPM

[mhdishere]

Let's put it this way, I bought and shot BP revolvers in NYC with no forms or other paperwork. I started shooting with BP to find out if I liked shooting before I went thru all the hassle of getting the license and such. I also got one mail-order from Dixie Gun Works delivered to my door in NYC.

[Old Fuff]

JPM:

Thanks. I'm delighted to learn this. :D

[Michigander]

Thanks for all your help guys, I appreciate it.

[4v50 Gary]

There are no Federal laws concerning black powder muzzle loading firearms. However, check your state laws. Here in Kommunist Kalifornia they're considered as "firearms.":rolleyes:

[joe4702]

Are you sure about that? I bought a Ruger Old Army and T/C Hawken mail order last year. Perhaps they are considered firearms in regards to carry and transport?

[4v50 Gary]

Look at California's definition of firearm which reads "any device designed to be used as a weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any explosion, or other form of combustion..." I didn't see any exemption for black powder muzzle loaders like the Federales grant.link to CA law 12001(a)(1) P.C. (http://caag.state.ca.us.firearms/dwcl/12000.htm)

BTW, CA law doesn't apply to Federal gubmint including the United States Postal Service. :)

[Grunt]

Oh, and if you're interested, there are convesion cylinders out there like those made by R&D or my favorite, Kirst I got from River Juntion Suttlers (http://www.riverjunction.com/kirst/index.html) that allow you to shoot .45 Colt out of .44 C&B revolvers or .38s (.38 Short Colt, .38 Long Colt, .38 Special) out of the .36 caliber revolvers. Since they are classified as a part by the BATF, there is no liscensing on them or federeal 4473 forums to fill out. :evil: Keep in mind though that you still have to keep your ammunition loaded to BP pressure levels either with BP, a BP substitute or CAS loaded smokeless ammo though. I've used my Remington conversions for a lot of SASS shoots and I really like them. Shoot great, easier to deal with than loose powder and they have a LOT of style points to boot. :D