Russians use SKS rifles for sniper duty???


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What No Gravy?
September 2, 2004, 12:22 AM
http://apnews.myway.com/image/20040901/RUSSIA_SCHOOL_SEIZURE.sff_MOSB103_20040901173322.html?date=20040902&docid=D84R8SN80


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Third_Rail
September 2, 2004, 12:28 AM
Wow. Guess so! :D

What No Gravy?
September 2, 2004, 12:35 AM
Does this mean that SKS rifles will be worth more? :D

Sactown
September 2, 2004, 12:36 AM
That can't be right. Possibly the local population out to lend a hand? If I was a hostage I would be fearful that the SKS armed sniper might take a shot.!! Pics I've seen show heavily armed Russian security forces there.

What No Gravy?
September 2, 2004, 12:39 AM
"Possibly the local population out to lend a hand?"

Maybe a Father of one of the children

What No Gravy?
September 2, 2004, 12:44 AM
Looks like the local PD are the ones with the SKS rifles.

http://apnews.myway.com/image/20040901/RUSSIA_SCHOOL_SEIZURE.sff_MOSB104_20040901173654.html?date=20040902&docid=D84R8SN80

Riphalman
September 2, 2004, 04:47 AM
That hardly looks like a pro sniper team.

45 Fu
September 2, 2004, 08:16 AM
Does not make him a Sniper.

My take is the SKS is comparable to the Mini-14 as issued to some LEOs as a patrol rifle. I like the SKS, but I would hardly take it as a sniper weapon.

The rifle could also be issued to some officers in a supervisory position for instances such as this.

Ohen Cepel
September 2, 2004, 08:18 AM
Two guys laying in the grass does not make a sniper team.

Am I looking at the right pic?

Bullet
September 2, 2004, 08:25 AM
Whats worse than being taken hostage in Russia?

Being rescued.

lee n. field
September 2, 2004, 08:31 AM
I wonder about the scope mount on that thing. It's not the usual (intergral with the receiver/can't hold zero) that you see all the time.

JPM63US
September 2, 2004, 09:02 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/02/russia.school/index.html

I believe a correct picture of a Russian sniper at the stand-off is at the top of this article.

I think the other picture is a crock - maybe the local police asked some guy for help until they were more organized.

JPM

El Tejon
September 2, 2004, 09:38 AM
On milityaa, tovarshi

Believe he's Russian po-po. Out where hayzeus left his zapatos the dress code is more relaxed.:D

armoredman
September 2, 2004, 09:45 AM
Militia - Russina police. Notice - mag release, and no mag hanging down. SKS is detachable mag model, and is unloaded - he's just "scoping" it out.

Mannlicher
September 2, 2004, 05:23 PM
Sure hope the shot presented does not require accuracy.

ceetee
September 2, 2004, 06:05 PM
Don't forget that to most journalists, any rifle with one of those black tube-thingies on top is automatically a "sniper rifle", and the man wielding it is a "sniper"...

Moparmike
September 2, 2004, 06:42 PM
I suppose you could use an SKS to be a sniper. But it all depends on what you are "sniping". Anything smaller than a Buick and its kinda moot.

MrMurphy
September 2, 2004, 06:51 PM
That could also be a borrowed hunting rifle. SKS's are used for hunting there.

WhiteKnight
September 2, 2004, 07:16 PM
If you read the caption it says "a sniper watches..."

It appears someone just happened to pick up an SKS with a scope and used it to casually "watch" the school. However, anyone looking through a scope rifle immediately becomes a sniper in the media's eyes. Heck, snipers are the only ones who use scopes anyway, right?

:rolleyes:

jefnvk
September 3, 2004, 12:18 AM
It is also my understanding that snipers do not kneel while shooting. But, I could be wrong.

El Rojo
September 3, 2004, 12:22 AM
It is a local cop keeping an eye on his sector. Big deal.

schromf
September 3, 2004, 12:25 AM
I don't think these guys are snipers. They might be the russian equivilant of Sherrif's auxilary or similar. Looking through the other pic's there are lots of uniforms, and the guys behind the police car look like they are wearing blue uniform shirts. There is no real good pictures of the firearms.

I will note that a good SKS with the righht ammo, can do around 2" groups at 100 yards. Maybe not top drawer sniper quality, but acceptable none the less. THe Russian Tula SKS's were the best of the breed and some were marked on the sight as being a higher quality. Ammo has a lot to do with it but since this is Russia I think they would have that figured out.

Looking at the pictures, and seeing the mothers, I really feel for them, has to a parents worst nightmare. By the looks of things it really looks like these guys are coming out feet first. There seem to be a whole lot of Russian special forces, and troops with the area closed off.

The news on this could be a little better, couldn't the news reporters get visa's and flights? Or is it a minimal interest?

schromf
September 3, 2004, 01:01 AM
THis looks a little more like it:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/090104russiaschool&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=0&e=18&a=0&printer=

This is pics of the police:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/090104russiaschool&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=0&e=38&a=0&printer=

and the Ol Russian standard:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/090104russiaschool&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=0&e=39&a=0&printer=

And this looks like one of the new models, wonder if its a AK-74?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/090104russiaschool&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=0&e=90&a=0&printer=

Atticus
September 3, 2004, 10:42 AM
Keep in mind that the Ohio nutcase who was randomly shooting at cars with a 9mm handgun was considered by the press to be a "sniper".

Dave Markowitz
September 3, 2004, 08:21 PM
Notice - mag release, and no mag hanging down. SKS is detachable mag model, and is unloaded - he's just "scoping" it out.

Nope, that's a regular SKS. The mag catch is the same as on every other SKS I've seen. His offhand is covering up the 10 round mag.

SOT_II
September 3, 2004, 08:57 PM
A "real" Russian sniper.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040903/i/r4074003529.jpg

PAshooter
September 3, 2004, 09:44 PM
Nope, that's a regular SKS. The mag catch is the same as on every other SKS I've seen. His offhand is covering up the 10 round mag.

Correct! You can see the "standard" fixed 10-round mag through the fingers of his support hand.

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