CA State Park - Can I bring my gun (do have CCW) ???
Tim Currie
September 2, 2004, 01:10 AM
Packing.org said unknown for a State Park. Anyone here know if I'll become a criminal for bringing my ccw gun with me camping at a state park?
Thanks.
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Ukraine Train
September 2, 2004, 09:31 AM
I don't know but maybe contact the attorney general's office if you don't get a clear response.
Tim Currie
September 2, 2004, 11:01 AM
Anyone else know for sure? I am supposed to leave in 2 hours.
El Rojo
September 3, 2004, 12:03 AM
Concealed means concealed. Use the metal detector rule which is, if there is no metal detector, you can bring it. Of course do so at your own risk.
deej
September 3, 2004, 12:25 AM
I guess this is too late to be of help, but I believe that California law considers your campsite to be your residence, and you are allowed to carry there.
12025. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
...
12026.2. (a) Section 12025 does not apply to, or affect, any of the
following:
...
(12) The transportation of a firearm by a person when going
directly to, or coming directly from, a lawful camping activity for
the purpose of having that firearm available for lawful personal
protection while at the lawful campsite. This paragraph shall not be
construed to override the statutory authority granted to the
Department of Parks and Recreation or any other state or local
governmental agencies to promulgate rules and regulations governing
the administration of parks and campgrounds.
...
12031. (a) (1) A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when
he or she carries a loaded firearm on his or her person or in a
vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an
incorporated city or in any public place or on any public street in a
prohibited area of unincorporated territory.
...
(l) Nothing in this section shall prevent any person from having a
loaded weapon, if it is otherwise lawful, at his or her place of
residence, including any temporary residence or campsite.
Of course, the big fat gotcha here is "This paragraph shall not be
construed to override the statutory authority granted to the
Department of Parks and Recreation or any other state or local
governmental agencies to promulgate rules and regulations governing
the administration of parks and campgrounds."
From www.parks.ca.gov:
LOADED FIREARMS AND HUNTING are not allowed in units of the State Parks System. Possession of loaded firearms or air rifles is prohibited. Exceptions are for hunting in recreation areas that have been designated by the State Park and Recreation Commission.
Go figure.
mrapathy2000
September 3, 2004, 01:54 AM
so keep the gun unloaded and magazine outside of the gun first bit of trouble go for mad grab.
striker3
September 4, 2004, 12:22 AM
so keep the gun unloaded and magazine outside of the gun first bit of trouble go for mad grab.
False sense of protection and a good way to get yourself killed. If you are going to carry a firearm, carry it condition 1...
Librarian
September 5, 2004, 03:25 PM
California Code of Regulations CCR (http://ccr.oal.ca.gov) says
TITLE 14. Natural Resources
Division 3. Department of Parks and Recreation
Chapter 1. General
ยง4313. Weapons and Traps.
(a) No person shall carry, possess or discharge across, in or into any portion of any unit any weapon, firearm, spear, bow and arrow, trap, net, or device capable of injuring, or killing any person or animal, or capturing any animal, or damaging any public or private property, except in underwater parks or designated archery ranges where the Department of Parks and Recreation finds that it is in its best interests.
(b) Nothing herein contained shall be construed in derogation of the use of weapons permitted by law or regulation and to be used for hunting in any unit, or portion thereof, open to hunting.
(c) Firearms not having a cartridge in any portion of the mechanism, other unloaded weapons or devices such as traps, nets, and bows and arrows may be possessed within temporary lodging or mechanical mode of conveyance when such implements are rendered temporarily inoperable or are packed, cased, or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use. In short, no loaded firearms in State parks, no unloaded firearms unless locked up.
No stated exception for CCW.
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