Who makes the best 1911 for IPSC Limited?


September 2, 2004, 04:07 PM
Lately I've been wanting to compete in Limited division, having outgrown my taste for L10 and Production, and not being quite ready for Open. Which double-stack 1911 do you prefer?

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September 2, 2004, 04:12 PM
I prefer the 2011 frame. STI or SV, makes no difference. Lots of good makers.

Zak Smith
September 2, 2004, 05:30 PM
SV or STI. Have it built by someone who knows what they're doing (a good clue is how many local IPSC shooters have guns he made). SpeedShooters and JP Enterprises often have factory SVs in stock.


September 2, 2004, 06:03 PM
I've never shot IPSC, and I only own 1 STI (Trojan .45). However, local IPSC shooters (including one I know is a Master) use STI frames/guns heavily, often built or customized by Dawson Precision or Allan Tillman. FWIW.

September 3, 2004, 12:23 AM
More votes for STI or SV. Factory or custom.

I like STI guns and SV mags, I have owned both.

Zak Smith
September 3, 2004, 12:26 AM
None of my SV-tubed mags drop free from my SV. All my STI-tubed mags work perfectly. Go figure.


September 3, 2004, 06:10 AM
Bring me your grip. I can fix that easy. They are dragging on the front part of the inside if the grip.

Is your grip textured?

September 3, 2004, 02:34 PM
I shoot a bone stock STI Edge. The only thing I've had done is some really pretty slide cuts, hard chroming, and a really horrible trigger job. I polished the feed ramp, barrel, etc., but anyone can do that. It'll feed any length round, even empty casings (resized).

Phil Strader

September 3, 2004, 10:01 PM
Most top Standard Division shooters here in Australia shoot the STI 2011, usually custom built by one of our IPSC gunsmiths.

STI Edge is starting to sell well, and the Bul M5 IPSC model has a following as well.


September 3, 2004, 11:16 PM
SVI. Not exactly the same as sti.
SVI has many nice new differences.
The new extractor is much beefier
The triglide trigger system is incredible
And if you want one built as what will be the hottest limited setup any day now, get the Sighttracker model.

September 4, 2004, 11:08 AM
And if you want one built as what will be the hottest limited setup any day now, get the Sighttracker model.

Dont know. I would have to put a few thousand rounds through one to see if there is any advantage. The sight still moves, just not like I am used to. Might move like more like a revo.

And yes, SV stuff is nicer to look at and Sandy spends a lot of $$$ on R&D. Beyond that, all the fluff and polish I can do without.

September 9, 2004, 03:39 PM
I'd go with the new SVI "Sight Tracker". Team SVI is doing very well with them (see Mark Agerholm's 2nd place w/a new gun at the AWARE match).

As for "fluff and polish;" I'd call a beefier extractor, a patented barrel bushing (if you opt for a bushing barrel), the exclusive treatment on the Schuemann barrels, the patented manual safety, etc. fairly substantive.

Of course, if you cannot afford an SVI, the STI is a good second choice.

September 9, 2004, 10:16 PM
and we really shouldnt forget SVI's interchangeable breechface design. The trigger system so you can get the different shaped inserts, want a short flat? a short curved? long curved, long flat? or a few other designs? no need to buy a brand new trigger each time, just get the insert.
These are certainly great options to have.

And yes, Mark did well at the Aware with his SVI, not bad for a guy who won't get out and practice.

September 9, 2004, 10:18 PM
Looks like its pretty much STI or SV..

pretty much the same...Sandy has some interesting stuff and it keeps the game interesting..but both guns are quality...and both are in the winner's circle...

SV makes a pretty nice gun if you want to go with a factory gun..if building one..both are pretty close to the same..

Zak Smith
September 10, 2004, 12:01 AM
http://apollo.demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/SV-1FASTER/small/126_2615_img.jpg [ link to larger image ] (http://apollo.demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/SV-1FASTER/?medium=126_2615_img.jpg)

September 10, 2004, 09:40 AM
Anybody know where we can see a pic of the sight picture on the 'sight tracker'? I'm having a hard time finding any info on the gun at all...

- Gabe

September 10, 2004, 09:44 PM
If you're a USPSA member get your copy of the new Sept/Oct issue of Front Sight magazine, it's on the inside cover.

September 11, 2004, 01:16 PM
Go to the source:


LOTS of pretty pictures! ;)

September 12, 2004, 02:47 AM
Another SVI vote.

September 12, 2004, 09:51 AM
faust - how much did that one set you back?

September 12, 2004, 03:27 PM
Telling guys like Hoser and gmshtr that an STI is OK if they can't afford an SVI makes me chuckle. :p

September 12, 2004, 04:30 PM
Well Ankeny..

if you can't afford it..sometimes you just can't afford it...:D :D :D

September 13, 2004, 03:32 AM
About two grand -- tax, title and liscense. Funny that seems to be the only number they know there. :) Nah they are good at saying three grand and four grand as well.

September 13, 2004, 03:57 AM
I could spend about $2k on a *NICE* well built SV, but right now I have to justify it.

September 15, 2004, 01:44 PM
If I had 2 or 3 grand, I'd definitely go with what these guys said. If I had $1000, which I do, I'm gettin a Para s16.40

September 15, 2004, 01:50 PM
I really really really want one of these...[1].jpg

Bedell Custom Spitfire

September 24, 2004, 04:37 PM
I just shipped a frame off to Bedell this morning, for my new Open gun. He does very nice work.

I like Dave Skinner, so I buy STI. SVI are decent enough, though.

I was a die-hard Para-Ordnance guy....until I won a Benny Hill 6" .40 STI. I noticed that my match performance jumped 10%. I thought it was just me, until our stats guy won a BulletWorks 5" .40 STI a year later. His scores jumped about the same ten percent.

A few years later, between my wife and I we have four Open guns, three Limited guns, and I even retired my (previous) carry gun, a Wilson CQB, in favor of a STI Commander in 9 by 23 :)


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