dc.fireman
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OK my fellow highroaders, I'm looking for some starting points for a new .223 loads. Here's my quandry:
I have a new target rifle - a Savage VLP in .223 1/7 RH twist with a heavy fluted barrel. I'm planning on trying my hand at some 300 yard plus shooting.
I've loaded for bolt actions before, but was limited to my mag-length rounds of 2.262" (that was the max I could get into the Steyr magazines).
Using my once fired factory brass from my barrel break-in session, has left me with 200 fire formed cases of PMC, and Federal .223 brass.
The headspace readings (from the once fired brass) according to my RCBS Precision Headspace micrometer, are 1.434", which is .002" less than the SAAMI minimum of 1.436".
Using the same RCBS instrument, I figured out the lands measurement to be:
2.336" using a Hornady 68 gr. BTHP
2.345" using a Sierra 69 gr. HPBT
I figured that I would try 100 rounds of each bullet, using the once fired cases, which have been sized back approximately .0015", using the same RCBS gauge to measure.
I'd like to use my standard CCI 400 primers, and the powder would be Ramshot TAC, or AA2460.
I would really like to seat these at about .003-.005" off the lands. I'm really pursuing the best groups I can get at 100 yards, from the bi-pod, before I continue to push on towards the 300+ mark. Will I be 'OK', using the starting loads from the books, or is this something to call the powder company on?
FWIW - After my break-in, I used some of my Hornady 68's, with AA2460 @ 23.7 gr.'s, in Remington pre-primed cases. It was one of my best shooting experiences to date. My best group came in at .94" group size, @ 100 yds., with two rounds nearly through the same hole. Had I not gotten excited, I wouldn't have have jerked the trigger on the 3rd round, and spread the group out... Not using the books standard COL is what's giving me fits. I sincerely believe that this rifle is capable of nothing short of phenomenal results, if I can find that sweet spot.
Any ideas?
I have a new target rifle - a Savage VLP in .223 1/7 RH twist with a heavy fluted barrel. I'm planning on trying my hand at some 300 yard plus shooting.
I've loaded for bolt actions before, but was limited to my mag-length rounds of 2.262" (that was the max I could get into the Steyr magazines).
Using my once fired factory brass from my barrel break-in session, has left me with 200 fire formed cases of PMC, and Federal .223 brass.
The headspace readings (from the once fired brass) according to my RCBS Precision Headspace micrometer, are 1.434", which is .002" less than the SAAMI minimum of 1.436".
Using the same RCBS instrument, I figured out the lands measurement to be:
2.336" using a Hornady 68 gr. BTHP
2.345" using a Sierra 69 gr. HPBT
I figured that I would try 100 rounds of each bullet, using the once fired cases, which have been sized back approximately .0015", using the same RCBS gauge to measure.
I'd like to use my standard CCI 400 primers, and the powder would be Ramshot TAC, or AA2460.
I would really like to seat these at about .003-.005" off the lands. I'm really pursuing the best groups I can get at 100 yards, from the bi-pod, before I continue to push on towards the 300+ mark. Will I be 'OK', using the starting loads from the books, or is this something to call the powder company on?
FWIW - After my break-in, I used some of my Hornady 68's, with AA2460 @ 23.7 gr.'s, in Remington pre-primed cases. It was one of my best shooting experiences to date. My best group came in at .94" group size, @ 100 yds., with two rounds nearly through the same hole. Had I not gotten excited, I wouldn't have have jerked the trigger on the 3rd round, and spread the group out... Not using the books standard COL is what's giving me fits. I sincerely believe that this rifle is capable of nothing short of phenomenal results, if I can find that sweet spot.
Any ideas?