im probably not the first to think of this, but y'know what would be cool?

and put a muzzle device on it,

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What is a muzzle device? Like a gas powered pruning saw?

Like this here?

and i'm sure it's been done before

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Many, many times. There's a whole forum on AK47.net devoted to it. It's widely considered to be one of the cheapest and technically easiest ways to SBR an AK. They're sometimes called "the poor man's Krinkov" and they're a lot of fun to shoot. Throw some pretty serious fireballs too.

Like this?

Not mine, but it's SWEET. Oh yeah, you have to fill out a Form 1 and get a tax stamp from the ATF, otherwise you'll go to the Federal pokey.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_98/129664_My_DRACO_w_ACE_CTR_Stock.html

that thing is the next best thing to jesus resurrected

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^Truth. If you have a chance wander over to http://www.ak47.net and check out the AK pistols forum. There's a whole picture thread devoted to dracos and about half of them have had stocks attached to make them SBRs. Makes you really jealous of some of those guys.

Those are pretty cool looking but what kind of velocity are they getting out of them? Do AK bullets rely on fragmentation like most FMJ AR bullets?

AK bullets rely on tumbling to produce their damage. A Draco gets about 2000ish FPS at the muzzle with a 11.5" barrel.

it's not like dracos are expensive..

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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7845867#post7845867


Dude, make up your mind...a few posts back, you were complaining about the price of ALL guns in general, including the low-cost AK option, the WASR....now a day or two later, and Draco's are "inexpensive"? I don't follow your logic, not in the slightest. Your posts seem to directly contridict themselves.

SBRs are illegal in Michigan by State law. Threads like this just taunt and tease me.

Take a Romanian Draco, put tapco side folder on it, and put a muzzle attatchment on it, and take what imo is just a novelty AK rifle and turn it into a devoted carbine... and i'm sure it's been done before, but i would be intrested in making one myself oneday...

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I doubt its been done before. Who would go through the trouble of SBRing some thing and then use a crapco stock?

Take a Romanian Draco, put tapco side folder on it, and put a muzzle attatchment on it, and take what imo is just a novelty AK rifle and turn it into a devoted carbine... and i'm sure it's been done before, but i would be intrested in making one myself oneday...

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Much cooler would be to use just about any other stock because tapco side folders are very low quality (not to mention IMHO they are unsightly). Then instead of a barrel extension (what is the point if you want something that long get any other AK with a 16" barrel) pay $200 and wait and have an sweet legal SBR.

Do Dracos exist for any other reason than to make an SBR? (I know some people have the debatable idea it is a useful thing to carry in their car in states with stupid laws).