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    Was there surplus 9mm Makarov ammo in the past?

    Apple a Day - I showed a picture and mentioned those carboard Russian military unmarked boxes in my first post. The ammo you describe as "Wolf" I am going to guess was the very early Barnaul that I've pictured here. When the Russians started packaging for commercial export they changed the...
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    Was there surplus 9mm Makarov ammo in the past?

    Apple a Day, if you mean the TCW - that was a great load! 109-gr averaging 1013 fps. Yes; hot.
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    Was there surplus 9mm Makarov ammo in the past?

    No, the 109-gr (not 107-gr) wasn't military, it had a commercial headstamp.
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    Was there surplus 9mm Makarov ammo in the past?

    Yes, early on there were imports of Chinese, East German, and Russian military 9x18 and each had corrosive primers. Each country packaged the ammo in 16-round cardboard boxes - the Chinese (pictured) and Russian boxes were unmarked: The East German were marked as pictured here...
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    9X18 Bulgarian Mak ?

    I see you mentioned "Makarov.com" twice I.O. Have you actually tried to go there? And what is the benefit of bypassing Gunboards forums?
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    9x18mm gel test: Hornady 95 gr XTP

    As evidenced by the increased penetration when brassfetcher clogged the HP with locktite.
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    9x18mm gel test: Hornady 95 gr XTP

    chopinbloc you recorded the highest velocities I've ever seen for Hornady XTP. Hornady advertises that the round travels 1,000 fps but it's known that they use a test barrel that is longer than a Makarov PM. I have never heard of the XTP exceeding 1,000 fos. Here are some posted velocities...
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    Should I sell my Bulgarian Makarov 9X18?

    Combat Engineer, I don't know why you're calling Austin excited; he answered in a pretty level headed manner. But based on your reply you know of only one on-line ammo vendor. There are actually more than one.
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    Does 9x18 have a future?

    Jrdolall: I don't see where I provided you any advice.
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    Does 9x18 have a future?

    Killian, If you had provided some punctuation I may have been able to grasp the meaning of your post. I realize it was a heart felt message - was it about 9x18 or only about 22? You don't follow 9x18 much do you? Look up what Buffalo Bore has provided. And Underwood. If you don't follow...
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    Does 9x18 have a future?

    There are 13 pages of 9x18-related items on Gunbroker right now.
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    Russian military Makarov -- not import marked

    It doesn't look like a Khyber from the markings, and the fact that the barrel is chrome lined would strongly indicate it's a real PM. That is one fine looking sample. Note - a military Chinese Makarov is easily worth 2x what any other variety of Mak will bring. You can get over $2,000 for...
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    CZ 9mm Makarow

    Walt .... just because someone has compared a TT-33 to a Tok ... back to my original question. Why say one pistol is "better" than the other? They are different guns.
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    CZ 9mm Makarow

    For some reason mention of the CZ 82 always seems to bring out this comment, or the vice versa comment that someone likes their Makarov better. The CZ 82 and the Makarov are completely different pistols and only shoot the same caliber. I don't follow 9mm conversations much but does the same...
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    CZ 9mm Makarow

    What mgmorden said. If you couldn't read the model number on the slide to know what you've got I wonder if it's been reblued. Or if it's a CZ 83, commercial variety with the squared trigger guard, it would be blued.
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    Can 9x18mmMakarov Guns Fill the Void Between .380 & 9mm?

    I'm not sure it's valid to say the 9x18 lost popularity.
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    Can 9x18mmMakarov Guns Fill the Void Between .380 & 9mm?

    It should go without saying that all the 9x18 military pistols were built to withstand the military ammunition spec of roughly 92 - 93 grains at an approximate velocity of 1050 fps. As after market 9x18 ammo came available that approaches 1200 fps and/or 100 - 120 grains , you need the...
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    East German Makarov? Get it if there's one for sale?

    Gunboards changed servers some time back. If you were a member at that time your join date was reset automatically to 1969.
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    East German Makarov? Get it if there's one for sale?

    He bought a $450 pistol for $365. I can't understand the firearms collectors here who don't appreciate that. As for comparing the Makarov to a CZ-82 - shy? Why not then compare it to a 1911 or Colt SAA?
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    OK CZ82 owners.....

    Yes, great utility pistol, but I dislike the fact that it's so hard to completely strip down.
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