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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I chony'd a bunch of the max 31 grain load today......very consistent, with most shots being somewhere between 2300, and 2310. There will be a better scope mounted on it next time out to get it tested for accuracy at long range. May load in Federal brass, instead of Winchester this time (maybe...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I went with this bullet/powder combo not to be creative, but because it is a well-proven/documented combination in Handi Rifles on game. Felt I owe it to those that helped me here to share my results thus far, is all. Proven first.....creative later. Though it would appear that a man that...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Those were pulled shots.......if I don't call them pulled, then they are then considered to be flyers. I called these. I have the forearm floated "H@R Style", and I was careful not to let it get too warm in the testing.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I finally did a small ladder-test of the 150grain Nosler Ballistic Tip using up to 31grains of IMR 3031. I was at 50 yards so as to not have to wonder too hard about what was going on with pulled shots, and also using a 4X scope. The 28 grain loading did poorly, while the rest looked...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    QL sure does like that IMR 3031 powder with the 150 grain Nosler BT.....pretty far ahead of the pack on paper.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I will be......Nosler, and Lyman 50th data in hand.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    That's what I was looking for.....sweet.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Yes indeed! Could you please do that with the Nosler 150 grain Ballistic Tips seated to 2.788, with IMR 3031, WInchester 748, and Reloader 15 powders? The 150's are the weight that are readily available to me. This is all so helpful.....thanks again!
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Also, I am trimming my cases to 2.029. I see that is a factor in the program.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Thanks again, Watermonger! This is all great information, and I found the format you posted last night with all the different powders to be very interesting, as well. The following info that was posted elsewhere in internet land is what prompted me post my OP.....does this format look...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    If you are referring to the Sierra 125 grain HPFP, I think that may be the bullet Federal uses in their 125grain loading, which my gun shoots itty-bitty groups with. They have an excellent reputation on deer from all I have heard. Unfortunately, the closest to carry those is a town-over. I'll...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I need to triple-check, but last I looked this Handi has an maximum OAL of 2.503 in my chamber when using the Hornady 150 grain RN #3035 seated at the rifling.....this design seems to have the ogive further forward than most other 30-30 jacketed bullets. 2.503 is a good bit shy of the 2.54 COAL...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Overthinking is my middle name lol. I'm interested in the velocities more for being able to reference where I should be at in the ladder with a given charge, than for velocities sake alone. For safety, more than anything. I am hopeful for 2300+ velocities, but I'm not going to push anything...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I now understand that "the large jump in start pressure" watermonger mentioned, was in reference to bullets touching the lands, and not bullets .030 removed from the lands. So I should be alright at .030, correct?
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Bfh_auto......I was thinking that .030 gave a good head start, without being too much of a head start....thus being a recommended starting point. What do you think?
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I was under the impression that .030 off the lands was a safe place to start, and to work down to .010 if necessary. Is this in fact backwards? These rounds are being developed for hunting, if that makes a difference.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Nosler gave me a max of 31 grains with that bullet using 3031 at an OAL of 2.550, so things are looking right in the range of what I was hoping for velocity-wise (I guess.....) going by the chart posted so far, even though the OAL is slightly different. I'm going to have to more properly wrap...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I just noticed that these results you posted are at a 2.778 OAL, so that would be .040 off the rifling. I actually requested numbers for a 2.788 OAL.
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    Thank you, Watermonger! The QL results I saw someone post before was in a different format, showing a ladder with velocities and pressures every third of a grain or so. I am green as grass to reloading, and didn't even know to include a pressure in my request. I am simply trying to gather all...
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    QL prediction for 30-30 in a single shot......

    I have the 50th Edition in hand.....no Ballistic Tip data in there, though.
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