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11 Year Old Shoots Assailant

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Spot77, Sep 11, 2003.

  1. Spot77

    Spot77 Well-Known Member


    11-year-old shoots, kills assailant threatening his grandmother

    Tribune Staff Writer

    SOUTH BEND — When Tony D. Murry held a box cutter to Sue Gay’s neck Monday night, Gay’s 11-year-old adopted son ran upstairs at the home at 1348 N. Huey St. and grabbed a gun.

    “He hit the bottom of the stairs with the .45 and stood ready stance with the gun,†said Gay with feet spread apart and her hands outstretched as if holding a handgun.

    The boy shot one round and hit Murry, 27, in the chest, even though the man was shielding himself with Gay.

    “I don’t know how he did that. One shot and he got him. He’s my little hero,†Gay said of the grandson she adopted.

    The fifth-grader may not have been just a lucky shot. This is a family that knows guns.

    “Before his dad died, they’d go target shooting. He knows they’re not toys and not something to mess with,†Gay said.

    Ironically, it was guns that Murry may have come for in the first place.

    “Murry demanded all the weapons in the house. Gay’s late husband was a weapons collector and Murry knew of the collection,†said St. Joseph County Prosecutor Chris Toth, who said this was a case of justifiable homicide.

    Gay said her daughter, who is the boy’s biological mother and currently in prison, was acquainted with Murry. Murry, or “Casper†as Gay knew him, would come by every couple of months to ask about Gay’s daughter. The two never dated, according to Gay.

    “I’m not sure where they met. Probably in South Bend when she was off on one of her drug binges,†Gay said.

    In an arrest in November, Murry listed “drug dealer†as his occupation, according to booking records at the St. Joseph County Jail.

    “I’m upset because she put us in this position. She didn’t send him (Murry) over here, but he was one of her acquaintances. I’m more mad at him though,†Gay said.

    Murry had been inside Gay’s house before Monday night and she trusted him. But this visit was different.

    “I know he was drunk. At first he wanted me to buy him booze. Then he wanted me to drive him home. I don’t leave my house after dark,†Gay said.

    Gay said Murry had been at the house for about a half an hour. She said she asked him to leave at 8 p.m. because she needed to go to bed. She normally leaves for work at 3 a.m.

    “He got irritated and asked for a drink of water. When I was in the kitchen he held the razor knife (box cutter) to my son’s throat and said ‘This is not anything personal,’ †Gay said.

    Then Murry rushed up behind Gay and held the box cutter to her throat, she said.

    “He told me, ‘Take me to where the guns are.’ He pushed me through the kitchen and into the front room,†Gay said.

    Gay stopped at the love seat, put her left foot on it and pushed back on Murry, she said.

    “I pushed up so he couldn’t push me forward any more, and I tried to push his hands down off my neck but he had a tight grip. I called for my son to say ‘call 911,’ †Gay said.

    That’s when the boy appeared with the gun. Murry ducked his head behind Gay’s small frame. Some of his torso was left unshielded.

    “I’m looking down the barrel of a gun that’s in an 11-year-old’s hands. I knew that if he pulled that trigger I was going to die,†Gay said.

    But Gay was not hit. She said they didn’t immediately know Murry had been shot.

    “Casper went for the front door, turned the handle and went out of the house. My son ran to me and set the gun down. I hurried up and locked the door and called 911,†Gay said.

    South Bend police found Murry, of 2009 W. Linden Ave., outside the home. He died in the emergency room at Memorial Hospital.

    “The young man reasonably believed his mother and himself to be in danger of dying. It was clear to us this was a justifiable homicide,†Toth said.

    “He did what he had to do. That’s an unfortunate burden for an 11-year-old to have on him,†he said.

    Murry had a criminal history. Between 1993 and 2001 he had several misdemeanor arrests.

    Murry had a theft conviction from 1994 and a conviction for attempted theft in 1993, which was treated as a misdemeanor.

    Murry had been convicted of unarmed robbery for which he received a four-year prison sentence in 1997.

    At the time of his death, Murry was charged in two Class D felony auto theft cases pending in St. Joseph Superior Court. He was scheduled to appear in court Feb. 26 for a possible guilty plea.

    Meantime, Gay said after 23 years at 1348 N. Huey St., she is putting the house up for sale and moving with her son out into the county, where her fiance lies.

    Gay said the boy is doing well since the shooting.

    “He’s proud of himself. He feels bad he took a human life. But he didn’t want to lose me. He lost his dad three years ago to a heart attack,†Gay said.
  2. spacemanspiff

    spacemanspiff Senior Member

    its a great story, but its over a year old.
  3. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    This happened when ... two years ago ...?
  4. Bigjake

    Bigjake Well-Known Member

    Good shooting on the kids part, and i love his take on the situation,

    “He’s proud of himself. He feels bad he took a human life. But he didn’t want to lose me. He lost his dad three years ago to a heart attack,†Gay said.

    He feels bad about it, but realizes that scum is no great loss! i'd mail this kid a couple boxes of winchester white box if i knew him.
  5. Spot77

    Spot77 Well-Known Member

    I guess.....I dunno', it's the first I heard of it. It was just emailed to me through a MD Gunlaw watch group.

    Maybe they're not up to date either :confused:

    Oh well....I still think it's a great story and there's probably a lot of people like me who haven't read it yet.
  6. Spot77

    Spot77 Well-Known Member

    Oops....I guess the story is older than dirt since the link to the story is no good anymore.

    You know what's REALLY great about this article though? The writing. There's no Leftist garbage about "legally registered guns".....and the writer actually portrays the bad guy AS A BAD GUY, instead of crucifying the shooter or the family for having guns, and trying to get us to see the deceased as the victim.
  7. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Murry demanded all the weapons in the house. He got them, one bullet at a time. Isn't there some saying about being careful about what one asks for? :D

    Kudos to the kid. If his pop were alive, he'd be mighty proud of his boy. We certainly are. :cool:
  8. Mal H

    Mal H Administrator

    The story is from Feb. 2002. Nevertheless, it is a darn good story with the kind of outcome we all would hope for if we were in the same situation. Mighty fine shootin' and a very cool head for a pre-teen under extreme stress.
  9. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Well-Known Member

    This was published in American Handgunner in one of the Ayoob articles late last year.
    We need more kids like that.
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2003
  10. C.R.Sam

    C.R.Sam Moderator Emeritus

    Was a great story of a great deed done.
    Still is.
    But howcome the Southbend Trib runs it today as a fresh article. ??

    South Bend Tribune.
    Thursday, 11-Sep-2003 22:50:10 EST
    11-year-old shoots, kills assailant threatening his grandmother

    Tribune Staff Writer Marti Goodlad Heline contributed to this article.

    Staff writer Gwen O’Brien: gobrien@sbtinfo.com (574) 235-6333
  11. Combat-wombat

    Combat-wombat Well-Known Member

    Great story...
    Yeah, I think I read that in American Handgunner or something a while ago.
  12. Carlos

    Carlos Well-Known Member

    I thoroughly enjoyed it too, now matter how old the story.

    I hope you all are trying to raise your sons and daughters with the same wherewithal
  13. BogBabe

    BogBabe Well-Known Member

    I remember hearing about this when it happened.

    But thanks for posting the article. I hadn't seen this particular article before, and it is by far the most detailed and even-handed narration of the event that I've read.
  14. OEF_VET

    OEF_VET Well-Known Member

    I hadn't seen this article before either. That kid did the right thing. It's terrible he had to be exposed to such a tragic decision at such a young life, but he handled it quite well. Hopefully he will handle the post-traumatic stress as well as he handled the situation itself. Here's to hoping he leads a long, happy, successful life!

  15. Mal H

    Mal H Administrator

    Sam - It is odd that the paper would have the current date on an old article. Apparently the dateline is dynamic, which is a dumb thing to do for a news website. I just looked and the dateline is "Friday, 12-Sep-2003 08:33:46 EST", the date/time I opened the link.

    Checking another article in the same paper, I found that Knute Rockne died today at the South Bend Memorial Hospital! Sad news. ;)
  16. Mark Tyson

    Mark Tyson Well-Known Member

    Yeah baby! You can't have my guns, but I'll give you all the ammo you can hold! Way to go.
  17. PawDaddy

    PawDaddy Well-Known Member

    I had not heard the story until I opened this thread. Too bad that more folks don't know about it.

    Just think; if the boy had hit the woman instead of the BG, everyone in the country would have known about it. And, the anti's would have been all over it as another "reason" to ban guns.

    Why can't they report the good things about gun ownership and teaching kids about guns and how to use them. Instead, they want the guns to be feared and something that children are not supposed to be around. For most kids, that is an invitation to check them out. And most do without the proper education and supervision. That's why accidents happen. Not because of the gun, but because of ignorance.
  18. Drjones

    Drjones member

    Sorry guys...it's a lie.

    Guns always kill kids.

    We know that.
  19. Nightfall

    Nightfall Well-Known Member

    See what happens when you teach children not only respect for firearms, but how to properly use them? If this was done regularly, we'd have a nation of safety concious, crime fighting kids rather than... well, what we're getting.
  20. RustyHammer

    RustyHammer Well-Known Member

    Kid dialed 1911 instead of 911.

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