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1911 22lr conversion or new pistol? opinions

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by densecity, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. densecity

    densecity Member

    Hey -
    Im torn and looking for some opinions.
    I cant afford to shoot much anymore, so im looking for a 22lr pistol.
    Here is the issue, should I get a 22lr conversion for my 1911, or a whole new pistol. I am looking to spend around $400. as of now i only own 2 handguns, an RIA 1911, and a baby eagle (jericho) 9.

    My prob with the mark's and brownings is that I really dont like to looks of them. I know, call me stupid, but i buy guns for asthetic value as well. should I just suck it up?

    I was looking into a revolver, but I havent heard great things around the cheap DA 22lr revolvers (taurus, charter etc.)

    I am 6'5" so the mosquito and p22 dont really fit me well.

    If possible, I like the gun to be semi compact, 4" barrel and under.

    any ideas?
  2. kanook

    kanook Well-Known Member

    how about a Ruger? (or is that what you are calling the marks?) Browning maked the Buckmark so that could be refered as a mark also. There are some companies selling 22lr as first choice than get a bigger caliber next such as Sig Arms
  3. Floppy_D

    Floppy_D Member In Memoriam

    Ruger Single Six, perhaps? My wife got me a Ruger 22/45; I thought it was missing something as well, so I cut it for 1911 grips. It's my favorite.

  4. NGIB

    NGIB Well-Known Member

    How about a Sig P series .22? I bought a P220R SAO not long ago and I really like it. They also include a coupon where you can buy the centerfire top end for $399...
  5. sqlbullet

    sqlbullet Well-Known Member

    I would probably go for a second pistol. For me that would be a Ruger, but you don't fancy them.

    However, couple days ago this question came up on a different board. Got me thinking, and I came up with a different option..

    Use half the $400 to get yourself set-up to reload and cast. If you can track down a near free source of scrap lead, your cost to reload for those calibers will drop to around the price of 22lr. Even if you have to buy lead, or buy bullets, they remaining $200 will buy a lot of them.

    Just a thought.
  6. chakup

    chakup Well-Known Member

    It's a toss up, but honestly I'd probably look for a Marvel unit 1 or tac solutions upper.
  7. Quadkid

    Quadkid Well-Known Member

    i was going through the same thing a few months ago and finally decided to buy a new handgun so i didnt have to swap over the conversion at the range. I got a Beretta U22 Neos for around $250 (new) and its a great shooter. I went with the 6" barrel, but they also offer a 4". If at some point you want the 6" you can easily buy one at Midway for under $100 and switch it over in like 20 seconds. One of the selling points for me was the integrated weaver rail along the top, which i mounted a red dot to.
  8. mongo4567

    mongo4567 Well-Known Member

    I have a Kimber conversion on mine and love it. It is very reliable and accurate, though it does need to be run wet. I really like the Ruger Mark as well; with you only having two handguns I would suggest a dedicated pistol.

    DRYHUMOR Well-Known Member

    I got a conversion late last year. Now that it's broke in, it cycles smootly with no issues.


    Pretty much just use CCI stinger in it.

    The other .22 I have is a Beretta Cheetah, it eats anything I put through it. No issues.

    Both are reliable, and best of all inexpensive to shoot.

    I used to have a Sig Mosquito, probably should have kept it, but moved it on. The only thing I didn't like about it was the sights. They just weren't very snug fitting, and really didn't seem to be well made. Everything else about the gun was OK.

    Magazines is where they get ya most of the time, unless you can pick some up used. Don't forget to budget for them.
  10. kansas coyote

    kansas coyote Well-Known Member

    My 1911a1 springfield manual states specificaly not to use 22 conversion kits on it it states you run the risk of damage to the gun or personal injury . Dont know why this statement is made but I will take their word for it .

    I am a big fells also 6'3" 245 and I found one that fits me perfect it is the smith and wesson 22a very well made and even comes with a sight rail if you are the scope kind of person personally I only own 1 scoped weapon and that is my deer rifle . I find target shooting more rewarding useing what god gave me. But everyone is differant . These pistol run's in the $289 range I bought mine 3 yrs ago for $159 at bass pros grand opening here in kansas . Hell of a nice weapon .
  11. Some questions are hard. This one is not. It's a PITA to swap slides out, and you don't save much $$ anyway.

    You want a new pistol. Might I recommend a Browning Buckmark?
  12. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    My experience with .22 Conversion kits is they are iffy. My Colt Service Ace kit is the best I have, but it won't shoot with my Colt Woodsman. I like the Converson kits to practice with -- and yes, I reload. And yes, I get free wheel weights from my local tire dealer. But you won't get .45 ACP down to .22 prices, try as you will.

    One nice thing about .22 Conversion kits is you can practice with the same gun you carry -- only using .22 ammo. Another plus is that shooting .22 makes it easier to practice the tough things -- like keeping your eye on the front sight through the recoil and recovery cycle.
  13. Canuck-IL

    Canuck-IL Well-Known Member

    Same reason every manufacturer states that you should never shoot reloads ... they really do not need to have customer support clogged with misc issues that are not central to their business (as well as some perceived liability issues w reloads).

    My Ad Arms conversion has been on 2 SAs, 1 Colt and a Norinco - trouble-free on all.
  14. David E

    David E Well-Known Member

    I've always wondered why one would want to track the front sight thru the recoil cycle. There's nothing over the berm that I want to shoot !

    I don't care where it goes, I only care that it comes back to the same spot.

    Regarding the OP's question, it depends what his goal is. If it's simply to shoot more, then a new .22 would be a better choice. If, on the other hand, he wants to improve his skills with his 1911, then a conversion kit makes more sense.
  15. densecity

    densecity Member

    thanks for all the great replies.
    first off, i cant carry, because im in NY, and they are quite retarded about gun laws (don't get it twisted though, i love my state!). so practicing to get better for carry purposes is out the window.

    leads me to a couple new questions.
    what kind of accuracy would I get with a ruger mark III 4" barrel out to 15-25 yards?

    does anyone have experience with the charter/taurus 4" 22lr revolvers? I held one at the store and the DA trigger pull was about 2,000 lbs. haha does it smooth/loosen up?

    thanks for the help fellas
  16. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    I honestly haven't shot more than one or two of the new Mk IIIs, but if my Mk II, and many others I've shot and watched shot are anything to go on, you will run out of accuracy a LONG way before it does! :D

    Yeah, they're very accurate.

    Having said that, if you shoot a 1911, and want to get good/fast with it, get a conversion kit. Nothing like getting to practice with the same gun you (might someday) carry or rely on. Shooting lots of different guns is fun, but it does mess with the skills you're building in your hands and head when you change to a different grip and manual of arms.

  17. Geno

    Geno Well-Known Member

    I like my Ruger Mark II, but my Kimber upper is far more accurate. I do have to clean the Kimber upper more frequently than the Mark II due to the extra tight chamber. So...I have and use both.
  18. orionengnr

    orionengnr Well-Known Member

    If you are inclined towards a revo, keep your eye open for an S&W M17 (6 inch) or M18 (4 inch). Old-fashoined quality.
    Finding one for $400 will be a challenge, but not impossible (I found one, and have seen at least two in the last year or so).
    Hint: join the S&W forum and search their "for sale" ads regularly. When one comes up at that price, it probably won't last long.
  19. David E

    David E Well-Known Member

    Even NY has shooting competitions, like USPSA and IDPA. A 1911 is perfect for either one. A .22 conversion kit would allow more practice with the same gun/holster combo for improved skill.

    For a whole gun, either the Ruger or Buckmark are very good choices.
  20. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    My advice is forget the conversion and get a 22 pistol unless you plan on 2700 Bullseye match shooting (in which case the Marvel is the one to get).

    I've seen a number of 1911 conversion kits at our club and the common thread is they don't work with the cheap bulk pack ammo -- which kinds of defeats the whole purpose if you have to buy .22 ammo that costs almost as much as cheap 9mm to get them to work.


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