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1911 Ambi Thumb Safety Wipes Off

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Ironbarr, Mar 13, 2003.

  1. Ironbarr

    Ironbarr Member In Memoriam

    Is this normally a plunger spring problem? Is an ambi safety removal difficult?

    This safety has a "nice and fast click" to it, but apparently too nice and too fast. The normal resistance is a bit light and no doubt clothing and motion tends to sometimes wipe it off. It's disconcerting and a "no confidence" carry situation

    I'd like to do this myself if it's a spring, but tell me, is it something I, with some mechanical ability, can do right? And - does this spring also serve the slide lock plunger? Is that a problem?

    Enough questions.

    Thanks in advance for your interest.

  2. yankytrash

    yankytrash Well-Known Member

    Aaa, you still have the grip safety, most people strive for a light manual safety like yours. Wish I still got down your way more often, I'd swap with ya in a second.

    Problem's, 99% sure, the safety itself. Particularly, the detent in the left manual safety where the plunger engages it. Yours is just worn, or been modified. I smooth up all mine like yours is.

    Your best bet? Get ahold of Navyjoe and swap him. He can swap ya out in the blink of an eye, and he'd probably prefer the looser safety anyway.

    If you know the teardown procedure for the safety, wait until the next Hampton or Richmond show and visit the Dare Gun Room booth. His sign is obviously handmade and says, "1911 45 Auto Parts". He's a fat guy with glasses, usually got an older man and a small kid with him. Tell him you want another ambi, but you want the one with the pin retainer. In my opinion, they're the best ones to have. It's in a little Dare Gun Room "match" baggie, you'll see'm. With the Dare ambi's, there's usually no fitting required for the common milspec 1911's. It'll run ya about $25, so start snatchin change from honeydo's pants' pockets now while she's asleep. You'll have enough saved up by the next show easy.

    I prefer to pilfer a dollar at a time. She don't notice one buck missin much.:D
  3. Ironbarr

    Ironbarr Member In Memoriam


    Here I am, trying to be serious about this without giving away just how dumb I am in my old age, and there you are, jovial and loose as a goose, just zipping off all this stuff like the ace that I know you are (that's A-C-E, ACE... lest it triggers somone's imagination).

    You do good work - but don't you get tired holding my (wrinkled) old hand in all these gun things?

    Yep, I wish you'd come down this way. Okay, I'll take your suggestion "under advisement" - the one about Dare. I'm not ready to chuck my Chuckie Daly just yet - it still shoots better than I do. 'Course a new set of Mark 1 Mod 2 eyeballs might help.

    Thanks, my friend. Later.

    -Old IB:)
  4. Brownells, (www.brownells.com) makes a special long drill bit that slips through the plunger tube and allows you to cut a dimple in the safety. This allows the end of the plunger to hold the safety firmly, and will cure the easy off condition that you now have.
    Good shooting, John K
  5. Ironbarr

    Ironbarr Member In Memoriam


    Thanks for that - I'll check it out. I just want it a touch firmer so it doesn't wipe off with the rustle of my bustle (so to speak).

    I don't nap with a 1911 C&L'd in my back pocket, as I read in a recent thread somewhere (can't find the link) where the safety lifted and the gun went boom, tearing up a TV, sofa, jeans and leaving a "rash" in the ash. But it disturbs me that the safety isn't reliably "ON" - I'm constantly checking it. I think it mostly happens getting out of the car/safety belt removal/moving clothes around.
  6. Jim K

    Jim K Well-Known Member

    IMHO, if you are not lefty, dump the ambi safety (they are usually held on by the right grip) and replace it with a standard safety. They are a nuisance if you need them and if you don't why bother?

    The safety should not need a detent to stay in place if a thumbpiece (ambi or otherwise) is not catching on everything in sight or out of sight as the case may be.

  7. yankytrash

    yankytrash Well-Known Member

    I thought that too, until I shot my first IPSC match and the man said, "Alright, on this round, your primary shooting hand is disabled. At the tone, you will draw your weapon, place it in your secondary hand, drop the safety, and engage targets....".

    Got me thinkin' that maybe most any pistol needs to be ambi.

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