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1st person arrested under New York's new SAFE Act

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by usmarine0352_2005, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    Well, this is how you turn a law-abiding citizen into a criminal.

    I wonder if he will go to trial or plead out. If he goes to trial and is convicted I wonder if he'll appeal it and how far it could go. Interesting how they called it 2 semi-automatic rifles, rather than go with the standard 2 "assault rifles".


    Last edited: Mar 15, 2013
  2. 627PCFan

    627PCFan Well-Known Member

    "Didnt have his own attorney".

    Wonder if that will hose him down the line. Its bad enough not to have one with normal laws that are commonly understood, less let a fresh law with no other cases on the books-
  3. SilentStalker

    SilentStalker Well-Known Member

    I think I would get me a good lawyer, the backing of the NRA, and take this all the way to the USSC.
  4. AlbertH

    AlbertH member

    IF the NRA feels it is a worthwhile case is the big question.

    It is going to take the right type of person and a case that they know can make it all the way to the U S Supreme Court before any organization puts up the millions it will take to defend such a case.

    What the guy should actually do is plead his case on YOU TUBE or FACEBOOK and ask for donations to help pay for his legal fees. George Zimmerman got what, $60K in donations.
  5. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

    Bloomburg is probably jumping for joy, with his giant sized slurpee.
  6. Grmlin

    Grmlin Well-Known Member

    and don't forget his Cheez-it's (those are Bloombergs weakness don't ya know!)

    Hopefully he gets a good lawyer and some backing.
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

    I got nothing real nice to say so
  8. wvtarheel

    wvtarheel New Member

    You don't need the NRA. Call Alan Gura, the guy who represented Joseph Heller in Heller v. DC. If he doesn't want to take this one on I bet he knows someone who would.
  9. coloradokevin

    coloradokevin Well-Known Member

    It saddens me to see someone charged with a felony for activities that have been enjoyed legally by many of us, for many decades. As we all know, things may be getting a bit more complicated here in Colorado (for the time being), but as things currently stand it sure isn't a crime to sell someone a "semi-automatic rifle and 300 rounds of ammunition".

    The New York lawmakers would probably have a heart attack if they saw the stuff that most of my law-abiding friends have on hand.

    I hope this guy can get a good lawyer, and I hope those of you in NY are working to get these ridiculous laws overturned on the basis of Heller, the 2nd Amendment, or whatever else you can use. I've heard rumor that a judge has already asked the legislature to prove the constitutional validity of these laws, so hopefully something will get shot down in the mean time on the basis of an injunction.
  10. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

  11. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    Update: Looks like this guy is an idiot who sold to an undercover cop after the cop told him he was a felon.


  12. Tinker

    Tinker Well-Known Member

    Just lovely.:mad:
  13. KingMedicine

    KingMedicine Well-Known Member

    Okay, as stupid as this is, the guy selling to a guy admitting he's a felon is stupider and only makes us look bad. It's not that hard to sell anything right now while not breaking the rules.
  14. jamesbeat

    jamesbeat Well-Known Member

    Isn't it illegal to knowingly sell any gun to a felon anywhere in the country?
    I think the SAFE act part is that the gun he sold was an 'assault weapon'.
  15. sonick808

    sonick808 Well-Known Member

    I don't have any sympathy for anyone that sells to someone who says they're a felon. A stranger to boot. Seems to me the SAFE act has no relevance here other than some tack-on legal/plea bargain fodder
  16. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    Great, this idiot is the perfect example for Cuamo and Bloomberg to use as why they needed to ram this legislation through. Morons like this guy are obviously selling guns as we speak and killing babies right now they'll say.
  17. GambJoe

    GambJoe Well-Known Member

    Twice sold illegally

    Was this guy know by LE to sell fire arms to criminal types? Or was it a case of entrapment? Sounds like he has some time coming to him.
  18. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    Hmmmmmm.. Anyone else find that odd for two AR's, Mags and ammo in today's market? Wonder if they were stolen to begin with?
  19. Arbo

    Arbo Well-Known Member

    At first I thought this might be a good starter case, then read the update that he knowingly sold to someone that said they were a felon. Screw him, he deserves all the time he gets.
  20. AlbertH

    AlbertH member

    The price or availability? as far as availability goes, they have been available at all three of the gun shows I have been to since mid January, and it quantity.

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