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.223 AK other than Saiga?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Orion8472, Sep 24, 2009.

  1. Orion8472

    Orion8472 Well-Known Member

    Is there an ak chambered in .223 other than those Saiga rifles?
  2. nalioth

    nalioth Well-Known Member


    The Romanians have been exporting them for over a decade. The Sar-3 was imported briefly a few years ago, and today the WASR-3 is available.

    You also have the very overpriced Arsenal offerings. . . ( May I suggest you do your research prior to buying one ).

    Sorry folks, but I don't consider the Galil to be an AK, and even if I did, I'd not recommend it.
  3. briansmithwins

    briansmithwins Well-Known Member

    Arsenal SLR106FR.

    Very nice rifles that will run right out of the box. BSW


  4. Orion8472

    Orion8472 Well-Known Member

    The Arsenal looks very good. :)

    I'll have to check it out and the WASR-3.

    Thanks guys!
  5. GunTech

    GunTech Well-Known Member

    I love my Golani. The first one I got had the out of spec receiver, but it was immediately replaced and the current rifle has had thousands of rounds through it with no problem. I did have to modify the receiver to accept the M16 mag adapter, and Galil mags are expensive and usually in only fair condition. Orlites are readily available and work fine, as well as being relatively cheap.

    I need to put in a better trigger, but that is really my only complaint. And AK variant that can use M16 magazines. What's not to like?

  6. nalioth

    nalioth Well-Known Member

    The extra 4 pounds? :neener:

    The odds of getting a US made doorstop?

    The ability to accept M16/AR15 mags isn't limited to Galils, any more. There are at least two vendors producing adapters for any ol' .223 Kalashnikov.
  7. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    I have a SAR-3 and think well of it.

  8. GunTech

    GunTech Well-Known Member

    The milled receiver does make for a heavy rifle. Is Century still having problems?

    I'll look up the M16 mag adapter for the AK. That's a compelling add on for someone like me who has over 100 M16 magazines.
  9. GunTech

    GunTech Well-Known Member

  10. GunTech

    GunTech Well-Known Member

    Cripes! $110 to $150 for the M16 mag adapter.
  11. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    The Vepr was offered in 223. Not around anymore but they were pretty nice. If you can get your hands on one at a decent price...
  12. Ian

    Ian Well-Known Member

    There are also Yugo AKs in .223, the model 95s, with underfolding stocks. I don't know how many have been commercially sold, but the parts kits are out there.
  13. briansmithwins

    briansmithwins Well-Known Member

    Until the Pmags came out I wouldn't want an AK that would use AR mags. Why cripple the AK with the flimsy, often broken AR mag?

    Pmags, OTOH, approach AK mags in durability.

  14. Jeremy2171

    Jeremy2171 Well-Known Member

    I've got two of the Yugo M90/M95s and they are awesome.

    One is a standard folder and the other is built as a fixed stock. Get one if you can.....

    (not mine.....pic lifted from GB)

    I'll try and get some of mine soon.

  15. nalioth

    nalioth Well-Known Member

    To my knowledge, ZERO.

    The parts kits are indeed "out there". They are under the beds and in the closets of some very wise folks, waiting to be built, or already built.

    They're not something you're gonna be able to buy today (unless money is no object).
  16. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    would it make more sense to go with a AK action that was built with the 5.56x45mm rounds in mind like the:

    1. Valmet
    2. Galil
    3. Sig 556
  17. Isher

    Isher Well-Known Member

    Extra, Extra, read all about it..........

    CZ should have a VZ 58 in .223 out by the end of this year.

    Now, in case you are wondering what the hell

    A VZ 58 is, it is a Czech carbine which purely kicks the snot

    Out of the AK/AR/Saiga variants.

    The only one I will tip my hat to is the FAL.

    Yes, I do know that these will be fighting words for many.

    Go shoot one, a VZ, I mean.

  18. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    i think the CZ would be at the head of the class too and with their track record of quality...this should be a winner

    now if i could just get a blocked in 10 round mag model for CA...it already has a built in guide for the stripper clips
  19. nalioth

    nalioth Well-Known Member

    Nobody will argue that the Valmet is the King of the Kalashnikovs.

    The Galil is twice removed from Mr. Kalashnikovs grand design (it's based on the Valmet, not an AK). They're okay, if you can find one that was made in Israel.

    The Sig 556 isn't an AK at all.
  20. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    really?...that isn't what they said at the SHOT Show

    they called it the ultimate evolution of the AK

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