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243 and IMR 4895

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by aerod1, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. aerod1

    aerod1 Well-Known Member

    I am about to reload some 243 Win. and I have a pound of IMR 4895. Is this a good powder for this round? I have been on Hodgdon's website but I just want some opinions from the crowd. I am undecided between 75 gr. V-Max or 100 gr. soft point. Opinions?
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    It is an excellent powder choice for 75 grain bullets.

    Too fast burning for best velocity with 100 grain.


    HOWARD J Well-Known Member

    Here is Winchester case with 105gr A-Max using 39gr of H4350 powder @ 50 yards--Savage "edge" 243--19 rounds

  4. aerod1

    aerod1 Well-Known Member

    H4350? :confused: Thanks, but I was asking about IMR 4895.

    HOWARD J Well-Known Member

    When you run out of IMR4895 buy some IMR4350 & speer 100gr SPBT--use 38gr of IMR4350 --- not as accurate as A-Max but a good round.
    Have Fun,
  6. NCsmitty

    NCsmitty Well-Known Member

    What are you going to shoot, varmints (V-max) or larger game like deer (100gr SP)? We're talking two distinctly different bullet's construction here, designed for different uses. If target only, it likely will not matter.

    You can use www.hodgdon.com to come up with sensible loads for each, because often, one person's pet load may not be close in some other person's rifle. Just match up bullet weights and use the data for regular cup and core bullets, using the start loads recommended.


    HOWARD J Well-Known Member

    100gr jacketed bullet-IMR4895---start 32.8gr--max 35.7

    Use some other powder for your 75 gr V-Max
  8. james layman

    james layman Well-Known Member

    243 load

    In 1977 my best load 44.5gr 4895. Using sierra softpoint 60 grain. At 120 yds a dime would touch the group, 4 holes are touching each other, one is about 1/4 inch away. With a 70 gr bullet, 1 grain of powder less group was twice as large and moved an inch to the right. There are so many variables, it will take time to perfect a load for your rifle. Be patient and enjoy the challange.
  9. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Why pray tell?

    As I said, it is a near ideal powder for the .243 & light bullets if you want the best velocity.

    And you can get 200 - 300 FPS more with other slower powders with 100 grain bullets.

  10. aerod1

    aerod1 Well-Known Member

    BTW, I have shot several deer using 75 grain V-Max bullets and they seem to work just fine on whitetails. These were loaded by a friend who was using 45 grains of IMR 4350. I did not reload at the time.
    The reason I mention IMR 4895 is because I have a pound of this powder on hand. I can live with a little less velocity, but will the accuracy still be good with this powder and 100 grain bullets?
  11. HOWARD J

    HOWARD J Well-Known Member

    I missed this first look IMR4895
    75gr bullet start 37.5------------max 41.7
    I watching a movie---what do you expect---almost won the war
  12. gamestalker

    gamestalker member

    It is a bit fast for my taste, but it should hold a decent group and maintain acceptable pressures if your attentitive to pressure signs, both high and low.
  13. 243winxb

    243winxb Well-Known Member

  14. gshipps

    gshipps Well-Known Member

    I like it. Low recoil, cool barrel. May not be the best but works good for me.
  15. popper

    popper Well-Known Member

    I used H4895 (about the same powder) for 68gr AMax and 100 gr Sp, youth loads to full loads. Good accuracy in a vanguard @100 yds. Grandkids rifle, I reloaded, put my first 3 shots(from this rifle ) in a horiz. line, about 1" apart. May not be the best, but it works for me.
  16. 4895

    4895 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't sweat it. IMR4895 is listed as a suitable powder for .243 winchester from 55 grain bullets to 100 grain bullets. I bet if you load it properly, it will go bang when you pull the trigger. Anything in front of the muzzle will be destroyed. It is a fact of life. Just because there are 150 flavors of powder out there doesn't mean you have to try them all. I would load up what you have, start out safe, and worry about important things like marksmanship and sportsmanship. The important things seem to be lacking these days. Be a good steward of the land and enjoy your family.
  17. 243winxb

    243winxb Well-Known Member

    Sure will. [​IMG]
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
  18. 41 Mag

    41 Mag Well-Known Member


    Lookie here, don't sweat the small #$^#, just use the load data and work you up a nice shooting load. It might work out great for one, or even both of your bullets, only you and your gun will be able to tell. I have never had a powder I could not get something working with. I simply got tired of trying the next best thing to come out and stick with the basics nowadays.

    I loaded IMR-3031 in my .270 for quite a few years, don't even care to hear about what the consensus here thinks about that one, but I would put that load up against most any here using an off the shelf rifle with nothing done but a scope mounted. It shot plenty of 3/4" groups at 200yds in front of more than enough folks to satisfy me, and dropped deer and hogs on the spot, out way further than I needed to be shooting at them.

    So just use the powder up in a kindly manner don't try to break any speed records and enjoy the time spent working up a hum dinger of a load. Velocity isn't everything, a fast miss is still a miss no matter how you cut it. Accuracy is your friend, and with some of the better cup and core bullets out today anything hitting the mid 2800fps range is plenty to kill any deer walking.
  19. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

    I have surplus bulk IMR4895 that is faster than canister 4895, and is more like H322.

    43 gr is just about right for 100 gr bullets, and get 6 firings and no sign of primer pockets getting loose.

    40 gr with 65 gr Vmax is wimpy, but at 3500 fps, it is as fast as I want to go and avoid fast Copper fouling. This wimp, but really accurate for me.

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  20. 2ndtimer

    2ndtimer Well-Known Member

    No offense, Clark. But I hope that is just a typo on your load for the .243 Win with 100 gr bullets. Since Hodgdon lists a maximum of 35.7 gr of IMR-4895 with a 100 gr bullet, your load of 43.0 gr would seem extremely excessive and dangerous. Especially if the 4895 Clark is using is closer to H-322 than to H-4895. Hodgdon doesn't even list loads for the .243 Win with H-322. (too fast burning to be effective)
    Which is another reason why new handloaders should consult at least 2 loading manuals and compare them before starting to assemble loads, and not just take a random internet post and assume it will work for them. If it was a typo, I hope it is edited and corrected before someone makes a tragic mistake.

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