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.30 cal CMP ammo: Wolf or Aguila?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Remander, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. Remander

    Remander Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking of putting in an order for some M1 carbine .30 caliber ammo from CMP.

    They offer two choices:

    1) Wolf .30 carbine, 110 grain, FMJ, copper jacketed, steel
    case, non-corrosive, Berdan primed. 1000 rds per case.
    $190.00 plus $17.62 S&H per case

    2) Aquila .30 carbine, 110 grain, FMJ, copper jacketed, brass
    case, non-corrosive, Boxer primed. 1000 rds per case.
    $249.95 plus $17.62 S&H per case.

    Leaning heavily to the Aguila, which makes good .22 ammo.

    Any thoughts or experiences with these in .30?

  2. Ian Sean

    Ian Sean Well-Known Member

    I would go and get a box or two of each and give them a try. My carbine does not like Wolf:mad: FTF, FTE all kinds of issues.

    Soon as I feed it brass it is fine, just finicky with those steel cases I guess:confused:

    S & B and Aguila work great in mine, though for serious plinking I reload my own.
  3. Oohrah

    Oohrah Well-Known Member

    With the straight wall case, non reloadable, I would go for number 2
    and save the brass for reloads. Since the caliber has long ago not a
    caliber in use, I suspect with a supply of CMP sold, the ammo scarcity
    will most likely take place. Very easy to reload without issues.:)
  4. asknight

    asknight Well-Known Member

    S&B .30 Carbine is the cats meow in my '43 Inland. I like the Aquila too, but it's a little more smoky and leaves a tad more carbon residue in the barrel. Easily wiped out with Hoppes and a patch, though. A bit funny smelling, but I can deal with it.
  5. Remander

    Remander Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies.

    You are right about Aguila smelling funny. The .22 ammo sure has an odd smell, but it is good stuff.

    I'll probably try a case of Aguila.
  6. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member

    I have found that Wolf works fine in my Carbine. I am reluctant to buy any though since it is not reloadable. I need to buy a case of ammo for it as well, but will likely look to S&B. I have found it to be good ammo in other calibers.
  7. kBob

    kBob Well-Known Member

    I know this will sound insane but before you order the Mexican consider the shipping cost and figure the price per round of reloadable cased ammo.

    Then trot down to whatever mart and price the 100 round bulk boxes or old 50 round boxes, plus local taxes and figure cost per round. Ask a local gun dealer if he can get the US stuff even cheaper or close to as cheap.

    I have shot neither russain steel cased berdan nor Mexican brass cased boxer primed ammo in a carbine. As I reload between the two I would choose the Mexican. The cartridge is easy to load and check the CMP site for tips on powder to use, weight of charge, type of bullet, and case trim length to get some good ideas on reloading for the Carbine.

    I do not know how well they are constructed or how many reloads the Mexican ammo will be compared to Remington or Winchester or even S&B.

    There is also a section on improving carbine accuracy through proper use of the recoil plate and front band arrangement.

    You wqnted opinions so there it was.

    -Bob Hollingsworth
  8. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Go with the brass.

    Steel-case Commie ammo is for Commie guns!

  9. RustyHammer

    RustyHammer Well-Known Member

    CMP - Aquila -- old Winchester equipment sold to Mexico. Good stuff.
  10. asknight

    asknight Well-Known Member

    RustyHammer, it was Remington equipment.
  11. DWH

    DWH Well-Known Member

    My CMP Inland M1 Carbine eats Aguila for all meals and loves it!
  12. U.S.SFC_RET

    U.S.SFC_RET Well-Known Member

    I shot three inch groups with Georgia arms canned heat. You just can't beat it.
    I am reluctant to put through a chamber steel cases.
  13. I've wondered how the new Auto Ordinance M1 Carbines would take the steel ammo from Wolf.
  14. Tim the student

    Tim the student Well-Known Member

    Funny stuff. :D
  15. tkopp

    tkopp Well-Known Member

    My universal carbine is perfectly happy to eat Wolf, for what it's worth. I mostly use brass for the local ranges that insist on it, but try to keep a couple hundred Wolf around for when I go to the steel-ambivalent range down south. It's just so much cheaper.
  16. nwilliams

    nwilliams Well-Known Member

    Wow necrothread rises!
  17. WoofersInc

    WoofersInc Well-Known Member

    I've got one of those and the Wolf ammo runs fine in it.
  18. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Well-Known Member

    Locally I see the Wolf priced at $18 and the S&B at $22 which makes the CMP prices not so good. Have you shopped around for a better deal? Seems many shooter assume CMP is the best deal but not always.
  19. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    One box convinced me my carbine did not like Wolf steel cases: they stuck in the chamber. No problems with Aguila, Federal, Winchester, Remington or S&B. (My carbine is an IBM 1943 manufacture, reimported from Korea.)

    The Aguila is new manufacture ammo, so the CMP prices are close to MSRP.
  20. Guns and more

    Guns and more member

    No Wolf ever in my firearms.

    If I had an AK-47 maybe, but otherwise, no.

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