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$300 NRA life membership

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by homers, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. stickhauler

    stickhauler Well-Known Member

    It never ceases to amaze me how many bull**** claims people can make to bitch about the NRA.

    First off, the NRA does NOT offer good ratings based on issues OTHER than 2nd amendment issues. You may love your congresscritter like a brother, and think they're just the best thing ever, but if they cater to the anti-gun crowd they're not going to be an "A" rated representative. In my own state's last governor's race, they rated the incumbent, Ted Strickland, a Democrat, higher than they did John Kasich, a Republican.

    Hate to tell you, but Bernie is a Socialist.

    The NRA-ILA is not a advocate for gun makers, their mission is to lobby for gun rights in both the local state legislatures, as well as in the US Congress. And the cost of your membership does not go to their efforts.

    And to those who are angry that they paid full price for a life membership, while others are given the chance to attain the same level of support for much less, sorry. If you paid the money to be a life member, you should be overjoyed the association is doing all they can to add members to the NRA. More gun owners associated with the NRA adds to the influence they can wield with our lawmakers. I find it incredibly sad that in a country with better than 90 million gun owners, only a bit over 4 million feel they should support a group working to protect our gun rights.

    And yes, you should support your state gun groups, politics is more local than national. A strong support of your state association influences your state lawmakers efforts to strengthen your 2nd amendment rights.

    In my opinion, we should be applauding the members here who are offering to assist those interested in becoming life members by sharing the bounty they were given, not fear they're making money on the memberships. I was blessed to be able to become a life member from such a generous offer here a few years back, I've since upgraded my membership to endowment status. Frankly, I didn't spend the money to get a cool windbreaker, or flashlight, or other trinket embossed with the NRA logo. I considered the money an investment to keep my rights intact, and perhaps strengthen our rights for our children and grandchildren.

    But, there's always going to be detractors of the NRA. I'd be willing to bet they're the same people who refuse to shoulder their share of the load in our struggle against those in our country who would LOVE to see civilian ownership of firearms a fond memory, instead of a reality. But these are the same people who would complain the loudest if laws were changed, and bitch that "somebody should have done something." BE THAT SOMEBODY!

    Thanks to all of you who are sharing the reduced life membership this year, following a tradition seen here near as long as I've been a member here. I salute you!
  2. Lord Teapot

    Lord Teapot Well-Known Member

    Any of these left? A grand is beyond my budget, but 300 seems much more wallet friendly.
  3. jsimmons

    jsimmons Well-Known Member

    When the NRA said they weren't interested in endorsing a bid to get our constitutional carry rights back for us here in Texas, I decided that the NRA isn't interested in *my* 2nd Amendment rights, and that I wouldn't endorse them either. Screw 'em.
  4. cbrxxrider

    cbrxxrider Member

    Yosemite Sam has a few spots left. Check the posts above for number of open spots and Post 43 for all the details.

    SAGEEN Active Member

    PM sent
  6. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam Well-Known Member

    Re-posting since it's back a few pages...

    0 out of 20 spots remaining.

    Got the offer for the 3rd year in a row. Got this down to a science now.


    So for those of you new to this, this is a 100% volunteer effort. I am not an NRA recruiter, and I receive no commission, rewards, kickbacks, etc. from doing this. It takes up 10-20 hours of volunteer time and maybe $7 in postage/handling.

    Some of the Perks:
    * ArmsCare Firearms insurance is now $2500 for all members (not just Life Members). This covers theft, fire, etc, and is free. Used to be only $1000.
    * Choice of monthly magazine subscription
    * Hotel/car rental discount similar to AAA discounts. I've knocked $20 off a hotel room price before.
    * If you believe in the cause, NRA membership is mandatory. 80+ million gun owners in the USA, but only ~4.5 million NRA members? AARP has a higher ratio.

    Please send me a PM with:

    * Name (exactly as you want it to appear on membership card and shiny Life Member certificate)
    * Address
    * Magazine preference (American Rifleman, American Hunter, America's 1st Freedom) AND if you prefer the print magazine or Digital edition
    * NRA number if you're already a member (so they can match it up easier instead of creating a duplicate account)


    * Telephone
    * E-mail address (Recommended so you get their e-mails)
    * Date of Birth

    I think they're asking for date of birth to clean up their computer database. With 4.3+ million members, there's gonna be some duplicate accounts (people with 2 or more NRA numbers). This will help them match people up. That and birthday will help sort out John Smith Jr. and John Smith Sr. This is just my guess why they're asking for birthday. That and demographics of gun owners and their members.

    I will reply to your PM with my name and PO box mailing address, where you can send a check or money order made payable to "NRA". I check that PO box every weekend and will send you a PM when I have received your check/money order. Once I have 20 people, I will send all the information and checks to the NRA. I send it at least Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation so everyone can track it.

    My deadline is January 15, 2012. I'd like to have this in the mail shortly after New Year's.
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2011
  7. stickhauler

    stickhauler Well-Known Member

    And Texas had constitutional carry WHEN? The NRA is a National organization isn't it? The last I knew, they still had some limits on their resources, so going after each and every item a member from every state wants would be impossible. But, I'm sure, your desire to see something you've never had sure trumps, oh, let's say, getting legal gun owners the right to get a permit to carry concealed in most of in our largest cities, doesn't it?

    Gee,I live in Ohio, I'd love to see them devote all the resources they have to better my gun rights. But I'd prefer they spend those precious dollars to get a Chicago resident the right to actually have a self defense firearm in their home legally. Or any number of much more oppressive laws on law abiding cities in our nation.

    Funny, I've always been told Texas is a gun culture state, I had no idea you folks were so beaten down by "the man." Let's all take up a collection here to fund the effort to pass laws to liberate the poor gun owners in Texas.
  8. jsimmons

    jsimmons Well-Known Member

    I didn't say my requirements trump anything. I simply have a different set or requirements. The 2nd Amendment doesn't say "...the right to keep and bear concealed arms shall not be infringed".

    Texas gun laws are absurd. You can openly carry a rifle down the street - without a license - but you can't openly carry a pistol. You can drive down the street with a rifle sitting on the front seat, leaning against the window, but you can't have a pistol in plain view in the car.

    Yes, you can concealed carry, but only if you pay the state for the *privilege* to do so.

    In my eyes, those things do NOT make Texas a gun-rights-friendly state (one of just six states that doesn't have open-carry).

    When approached during the last legislative session, both the NRA AND the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association) refused to endorse a bid to get open carry passed. They were more concerned with campus carry and employer parking lot storage.

    When either organization declares LOUDLY that constitutional carry is their primary goal, then I will consider becoming a member. I'm tired of taking "baby steps" in the fight to get our Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights back.
  9. fallingbird

    fallingbird Well-Known Member

  10. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam Well-Known Member

    I'm tired of it as well, but incremental steps is how the political game is played, unfortunately. I mean, GOA doesn't believe in taking incremental steps, but such an "all-or-nothing" hard stance results in "nothing."
  11. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam Well-Known Member

    0 out of 20 spots remaining.

    Possibility of 4 spots opening up since some people have dropped off the face of the earth and not contacted me. I'm not creating a wait list, so please no further PMs at this point.

    I'll update this thread in the next several days if/when spots open up.
  12. MO_mule

    MO_mule Member


    PM sent.

    Thank you.

  13. Stevie-Ray

    Stevie-Ray Well-Known Member

    Hmmm....I just signed up for 5 years for 100 bucks. That's alright, if the world ends on the winter solstice next year, it's all for naught, right?;)
  14. stickhauler

    stickhauler Well-Known Member

    So then, we have verified that Texas has never had constitutional carry? Yes, I know Texas doesn't have open carry, Ohio does. And just that little concession doesn't mean squat, as many LEO's can't imagine that open carry could ever be legal, and they'll hassle you to death, maybe even run you in and try to charge you. All that does is cost you time and trouble, and nasty attitudes from those same cops the next time they see you on the street, because it REALLY makes them mad when it's proven they don't really know the law.

    One advantage you enjoy in Texas over Ohio law is a concealed carry permit exempts you from filling out a Form 4473 to buy a firearm. You have to obtain a permit to concealed carry, so do we. Had that dreaded NRA not been around to "compromise" on gun issues in 1968, neither of us would be able to even own handguns.

    And I'd agree with Ted Nugent on the need to obtain a state issued permit to allow me to carry a firearm for my self defense, the second amendment should be our concealed carry permit. But theory and reality are much different concepts.

    The GOA may try to assure you that they'll get constitutional carry the law of the land across the US. They'll fail in their attempt. Love 'em or hate 'em, the NRA has a much more pragmatic approach to gun issues. They understand that finding a consensus among legislators takes giving on some issues to enjoy a victory in other issues. Neither party alone has the "juice" to pass laws that return rights we lost long ago immediately. We didn't lose the rights we had overnight, we'll not get them back overnight either.

    I'd bet the residents of, oh, say Chicago, New York City or LA would love to see the gun rights you consider too little for your taste. You speak as if the parking lot laws, or campus carry are not important issues. Perhaps not for you, but for people who work in state where employers can demand that NO firearms are ever on their property in other states, it's huge. For college students who have concealed carry permits, campus carry is also huge. And given the level of crime against innocent victims we see on college campuses Nationwide, I tend to agree. For employees who have concealed carry permits, and work in areas not quite Mayberry when they arrive or depart from work, parking lot laws go a long way to protect these folks from violent crime.

    Bottom line is, not everything you or I see as a priority is an area of immediate need to protect people from criminals. Myself, I feel concealed carry for all truck drivers should be a Nationwide accepted right. We go into areas of cities that are not quite real fun at any and all times of the day and night. We are usually in control of a loaded trailer that usually has cargo some folks would love to take from us. Yet, in the most dangerous areas of large urban areas, if we follow the laws, we're disarmed.
  15. BeerSleeper

    BeerSleeper Well-Known Member

    I like my pistol. I like my black rifle. I'm one "NRA compromise" away from losing my right to either or both of those. If you don't believe it, ask the full auto guys. The NRA threw them under the bus in 86 in the interest of "compromise", for what? FOPA lets me drive through Illinois to another state where my gun is legal? No thanks, not worth it.

    An organization like that, willing to sacrifice the rights of one part of it's constituency, for the benefit of another part does not have much appeal to me. I don't care to see the day my black rifle becomes restricted, because the NRA traded that right for something that benefits owners of shotguns, or hunting rifles, or whatever else.

    There are times when compromise is good, and appropriate. Rights should never be compromised. Not even a little. Ever.
  16. homers

    homers Well-Known Member

    The NRA isn't perfect, and not all gun owners even agree on all gun issues.

    That being said, where do you think our gun rights would be if the NRA didn't exist?

    Where do you think our gun rights would be if the majority of gun owners spent $20 - $35 bucks a year on NRA memberships (what power the NRA would have if it had 40 million members instead of 4 million?

    Get off the bitch wagon and start helping the rest of us haul your butt around.

    [now I'll get off my soap box]
  17. JDBoardman

    JDBoardman Well-Known Member

    "One advantage you enjoy in Texas over Ohio law is a concealed carry permit exempts you from filling out a Form 4473 to buy a firearm."

    Sorry, Stickhauler, but we still have to fill out the 4473. What we don't have to do, as CHL holders, is go through the NICS check.
  18. stickhauler

    stickhauler Well-Known Member

    You can't get a full auto firearm? The law requiring a tax stamp passed in the 1930's, that's still the law. But, back in the 1930's, there weren't quite as many full auto firearms made, were there?

    Maybe you're too young to remember the 1960's. I do. The attitude of the American public at that time was that NOBODY had a need for a pistol, the ONLY people who used pistols were criminals. Hell, polls of the American public showed near 70% of the country thought pistols should be banned. Then Bobby Kennedy was killed with one, and people were enraged, they wanted them GONE FOREVER!

    Now, I love the fun of shooting a full auto firearm the same as anyone does, but is it anywhere near as practical as a pistol for use by the typical gun owner? I don't think so. The number of rounds fired in Vietnam was way more than that used in WW-II.

    Some people will use any BS to justify not supporting the NRA. Send your cash to the GOA, be my guest. I don't see a group that preaches the "all or nothing" stance, yet can't show any effect for their efforts as worthwhile. I work pretty hard for my cash, I'll opt for the big dog rather than the yipping puppy.

    So, you don't have to worry about the screw-ups of the government to prevent you from having a transfer when you go to buy a gun. I'd give money to not have to go through the worry of a bunch of idiots our government hires deciding that today is the day they want to delay my gun transfer. They might decide someone I've stood in line at the coffee shop is a terrorist, and I suddenly got on a "no-buy" list.
  19. doc540

    doc540 Well-Known Member

    YoSam, thanks for your service with this.

    PM sent for a spot if one opens up.
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2011
  20. TyGuy

    TyGuy Well-Known Member

    After reading this month's First Freedom I want to switch to a life membership. Anyone willing to sponsor me please PM me, thanks,

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