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.38 S&w

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by elrod, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. elrod

    elrod Well-Known Member

    Today I picked up a S&W .38 Safety Hammerless (New Departure) at a yard sale at a fair price. When I got home and started looking for ammo on the 'net, none was to be found. There is a gun show in Montgomery next weekend, and I'll try there, but does anyone have an internet source on the ammo? I don't reload, so that's out. Ya'll (that's what we say down here) please don't tell me I've bought another trotline weight! :banghead:

    Also, what does the phrase "New Departure" refer to????? :confused:
  2. ronwill

    ronwill Well-Known Member

    "New Departure" is a reference to the safety hammerless being a departure from what was the common production at the time. New techniques were used and modifications continued through several models.
  3. VirgilCaine

    VirgilCaine Well-Known Member

  4. mavracer

    mavracer Well-Known Member

    sportsmans guide had some magtech a while back,pretty cheap too.
  5. elrod

    elrod Well-Known Member

    Thank you, VirgilCaine, for the links to the ammo. And it is expensive. I had not, before today, owned a top-break hammerless revolver. If I get another, it will be in .32. Thanks again.
  6. Will5A1

    Will5A1 Well-Known Member

    You might want to try Graf & Sons, I think its:


    They did have .38 S&W from Magtech that seemed reasonable.
  7. elrod

    elrod Well-Known Member

    That's much better! I can stand $15-16 per box better than $27-28. Graf had some PCI for $15.50, SG had Magtech for $16.60. I have an account with SG, so I ordered from them. Thanks, guys, you saved me a bunch of searching with no promise of success. :D
  8. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    PM Sent elrod
  9. Cocked & Locked

    Cocked & Locked Well-Known Member

    fun shooter!

    Ammo is out there, but it's not available at Wally World in white boxes...

  10. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    The .38 Safety Hammerless was made from 1887 to 1940 or '41. Before you shoot it post the serial number (use xx on the last 2 numbers) to determine the approximate date it was made. You may want to stick to black powder.

    S&W made a .32 version on a smaller frame, but it shoots the .32 S&W, not the more popular .32 S&W Long. The .32 S&W is as hard to find as the .38 S&W, and nearly as expensive.

    Both Harrington & Richardson and Iver Johnson made inclosed-hammer top-break revolvers chambered in .32 S&W Long, but considering they're general quality I wouldn't recommend them as shooters. They (probably) won't blow up, but accuracy isn't exactly target level.
  11. doncameron

    doncameron Well-Known Member

    I have a .32 Safety Hammerless S & W, ammo is NOT cheap.
    it's a fun shooter though, I don't know why some people say they are not accurate, with paractice, all firearms can be made accurate.
    shoot at a human size steel target at about 50 yards and watch the bullet
    arch into the target.
  12. VirgilCaine

    VirgilCaine Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Will5A1, that will go into my folder of online ammo sources.
  13. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless revolvers are an exception to the usual rule concerning accuracy. Both were made in barrel lengths running from 2 to 6 inches (That right! a little .32 with a 6" barrel :)). A few custom-ordered .38's had 1 1/2" barrels. :eek:

    The other brands frequently have non-concentric chambers and barrels, and shave the bullet on one side. I've seen them go sideways through a target at 10 feet.
  14. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    CheaperThanDirt has Magtech too but at the slightly higher price of $17.30. ($16.44 Club Price)
  15. elrod

    elrod Well-Known Member

    Old Fuff, the one I got today is s/n 235xxx. According to my references, it is a fifth model, estimated mfg.1930-35. Do my figures jive with yours?
  16. 44and45

    44and45 Member In Memoriam

    Elrod, if you're not shy of using reloads, (they be good ones of moderate velocity) I can fix you up with a hundred or so. Have to go check on how much I do have

    Don't have any guns for that caliber, so they aren't going to be used.

    Would like to trade for some 200 grain Fed swc .44 special ammo if ya got any.

    Understand the ammo can be shipped by Fedex without the Hazmat crapola fee.

    Can do some pictures if you want to see those cartridges.

  17. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    What is the barrel length on your revolver?
    What is the finish?
    Would you mind telling us how much you paid?
    Do you have any photos you can share?

    UPS will ship ammo without any extra charges over the normal shipping fees.
  18. Timthinker

    Timthinker Well-Known Member

    A late aunt of mine owned a .38 S&W (not .38 Special) long before I was born. She took it to "the big, bad city" when she moved to an urban area for employment. As far as I know she never fired the gun. Whenever I read about this cartridge, I think about her.

    Our other contributors are correct about the cost for this ammo, no doubt due to the law of supply and demand.

  19. woad_yurt

    woad_yurt Well-Known Member

  20. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    Midway's prices for .38 S&W ammo are higher than all the others listed above.

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