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.38 special cupped base wadcutter

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by tbeb, Jan 6, 2003.

  1. tbeb

    tbeb Well-Known Member

    Has anyone ever seen a .38 special 148 gr. cupped base wadcutter? If so then who sells it.l
  2. cheygriz

    cheygriz Well-Known Member

    .38 Caliber hollow base wadcutters are sold by every major ammunition company in the country.

    My preference is for the Remington Matchmaster .38 HBWC. But Winchester and Federal make them as well.

    Most of the large bullet manufacturers also make them for reloading. Speer, Hornady, Remington etc.
  3. Bottom Gun

    Bottom Gun Well-Known Member

    Hornady makes a 148 gr hollow base wad cutter.
  4. Gewehr98

    Gewehr98 Well-Known Member

    Kinda defeats the purpose of the hollow base...

    But Berry's sells a copper-plated 148gr HBWC.
  5. Wil Terry

    Wil Terry Well-Known Member


    Are you speaking of the old style cup-base wadcutters of 70 or so years back or are you asking about the hollowbase wadcutters of the past 50 years to the present?
    These are two totally different base styles and the terms are not interchangable and NEVER used interchangeably.
    The newer style hollow base wadcutters are made by every bullet maker who sells 38 caliber bullets.
    The only cup base wadcutter of which we are aware now is the SPEER 148 gr TMJ wadcutter bullet, maybe the coolest wadcutter bullet of all time
  6. MoNsTeR

    MoNsTeR Well-Known Member

    Where can you even get those Speers? I don't see them listed at Midway, Grafs, etc.
  7. Johnny Guest

    Johnny Guest Moderator Emeritus

    Okay, I'll bite - - -

    TERRY - - -Just what IS the difference in the CUP BASE WADCUTTERS and the Hollow Base Wadcutters? I always figured the terms were used interchangeably.

    I do like the Speer bulk pack HBWC bullets, but I don't believe I have any on hand right now.

    Thanks in advance - - -
  8. Jim Higginbotham

    Jim Higginbotham Active Member

    The "cup based" bullet tbeb is reffering to probably comes from a conversation we had about loading hollow based wadcutters backward.

    Like many other I have found the typical HBWC to so heavy toward the nose (which of course would be the base if inverted) that they tend to tumble at any distance.

    I mentioned that the bullets Winchester used to sell (RNs mostly) had a "cup base" that did not unbalance the bullet nearly as much as the cavity was shallow. Yet in a soft lead bullet it may be enough to start expansion and therefore may be "the" bullet if one is going to experiment with inverted wadcutters. I could not recall any commercial WCs that had this feature but then I never did buy in Winchesters or Remington WCs.

    Terry mentioned the Speer. I am unfamiliar with the plated WC but the old Speer 100 gr. 9mm JSP was a "cup base" and if the shape is like that it might prove interesting - that is if the plated WC jacket is not too thick.

    Best regards,
    Jim H.

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