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38 spl seater die, where to find one?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by trickyasafox, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    i searched midway and couldnt find a seater die, only roll crimp and factory crimp dies. i really want to find a lee one. i posted in the accessories forum, so if you have one for sale pm me. If you can find the actual link, that too would be very appreciated. thanks again.

    mike :)
  2. lee n. field

    lee n. field Well-Known Member

    Have you tried Lee directly?

    Failing that, a whole Lee dieset doesn't cost that much.
  3. ReloaderFred

    ReloaderFred Well-Known Member

    If you want to seat the bullet without crimping, simply back the die out about one turn and adjust the seating stem accordingly. You can either use another crimping die to form the crimp or readjust the seating die and stem for crimping in the next stage.

    I must have half a dozen old .38 seating dies in my shop, if you need another one. Most are RCBS dies.

    Hope this helps.

  4. Kamicosmos

    Kamicosmos Well-Known Member

    Well, there's the Speed Die. One die that does all operations somehow for 15 bucks. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=120485

    Why do you need just another seating die? Break or loose your existing one? Or do you want a second die for something? Outside of finding a used one online or at a gunshow, a new set is like 20 bucks from midway...
  5. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    i bought a used set of what i thought were 38/357 dies, however the seating/crimp die is a 357 which sucks. for those unsure why, a 38 spl die can be backed out to seat and crimp a 357, but a 357 cannot be turned down short enough to crimp on a 38 case :(

    not a big deal, it was a great price, and i know the seller didn't do it maliciously, just an honest mistake
  6. Kamicosmos

    Kamicosmos Well-Known Member

    Use a washer to get more space in order to seat the .38s.

    The dies should have come with one, actually. You put the 'washer' between the die and press for Special cartridges. I'll try to remember to measure the one in my RCBS 38/357 die set when I get home and post its thickness for you.

    edited to add:
    Nevermind, here is a link for a set of Redding spacers at midway:

    (a 38 Special/357 Magnum spacer (.135) )
  7. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    Uh, gee Kami, putting a spacer under a dedicated Magnum die is not going to make it reach a Special case with the crimp. It works the other way 'round.

    I got stuck the same way with a .44 Magnum set. I had a friend with a lathe cut a bit off the bottom of the seater to crimp Specials. Then cut some more off later when I got a .44 Russian.
  8. Kamicosmos

    Kamicosmos Well-Known Member

    Ah, Jim. Yes, you are correct. The spacer ring would be used to produce rounds with Magnum cases.

    Otherwise, I guess I don't understand the problem then. I've never had any problems seating and crimping Special cases using Magnum dies. Take out the spacer and now you're in Special-Production Mode.

    Am I missing something? Are we loading .38 S&W or something here?
  9. Sheldon

    Sheldon Well-Known Member

    He must have a set of dies dedicated to the .357 Magnun and NOT a 38/357 combo set which will work for either. The sets of dies sold usually include the sizer and a seater die, so I'm guessing most of the manufacturers usually don't bother to sell the seater dies separately. You might try contacting Lee directly, but you'de probably be better off just buying another set either used or new. Lee will most likely charge you full retail for the die and that's probably more than what a used set would go for.
  10. lee n. field

    lee n. field Well-Known Member

    I had the same situation back when I started (picked up a .357 die set off Ebay, not realizing I couldn't crimp the shorter .38 case).

    If crimping as a seperate step doesn't bother you, a Lee Factory Crimp die will let you do what you need to do.
  11. donkee

    donkee Well-Known Member

    Fleabay is a good place to start or as someone else mentioned, contact LEE directly.
  12. caz223

    caz223 Well-Known Member

  13. Ol` Joe

    Ol` Joe Well-Known Member


    part # 156-222, RCBS 38 spcl seater die with roll crimp $17.49

    part # 423-797 Redding 38 spcl seater only $19.49

    You`ll have to call about Lee dies I quit.....
  14. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    hey i just wanted to say thanks to everyone who replied i really appreciate it! a generous HR'er has offered to sell me one of his older ones and i am very greatful!

    thanks again all!:)

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