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.41 Mag does not equal .44 Mag

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Walkalong, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    I was there when Byron reloaded one of his 1911s. With his Dan Wesson 10mm magazine. It went bang, too. Fortunately, no damage to people or gun.

    Especially have to be careful when you have identical firearms in different calibers.

  2. jimmyraythomason

    jimmyraythomason Well-Known Member

    A friend of mine bought a Browning BAR in 7mm mag that had had a .270 win fired in it. It blew the extractor out,spred the receiver blowing the fcg out the bottom. I put the receiver in a vise and forced it back into position and replaced the extractor and spring. After putting several round of 7 mag through it without any ill effect,I pronounced it safe to shoot.That was a couple of hunting seasons ago and it has racked up a couple of nice bucks.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2013
  3. Dframe

    Dframe Well-Known Member

    I managed to fire a 44 special in a 45 colt once. And a friend of mine fired a 9mm in a 40 glock. made for a real interesting fired case but fortunately no damage or harm.
  4. Bush Pilot

    Bush Pilot Well-Known Member

    Don't give them any ideas
  5. dickttx

    dickttx Well-Known Member

    I have different colored pistol bags for each of my 1911's-22, 9mm, 38 Super, 45. Same with different colored CaseGard ammo boxes for each caliber. Any help I can get to match up the right guns and ammo.
    Just had to wait a few months to get a couple of Coyote colored bags for my 45's from Midway. Rested a couple of pistols during that time so I wouldn't forgetfully use the wrong ammo.
  6. Rule3

    Rule3 Well-Known Member

    never mind
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2013
  7. mstreddy

    mstreddy Well-Known Member

    In an earlier thread I referenced my story of a 9 in a 40, and a 9 in a 45 and 40 in 45.

    The 9 in a 40 is really quite benign when it happens. As the above poster mentioned, it goes bang -- not terribly accurate but will not cycle the slide. My buddy grabbed the 9 ammo loaded it in my 40 and shot. We looked at what happened and said -- OK, that was strange. Realized the mix up and corrected -- no harm no foul -- but I do get to laugh at him from time to time. The 9 in the 45 was ME - ALL ME!!! I grab my Colt 1911 in 9 (or so I thought) it sits in the safe right next to the Kimber in 45 and 2 other 1911s. Get to the range with the mags for 9, ammo, etc... Load mag, shoot one round, notice the very weak report and basically a keyhole in the target, no slide cycle either. Wonder what gives, manually rack, but have to pry the case to eject to find the 2nd pictured case and sit there for a second wondering what the @#$# caused that. -- Then of course I read the side plate and in bold script is KIMBER! -- Did I mention it was a 45 Kimber, not a 9? And of course another buddy is watching me and once we figure out no harm no foul proceeds to laugh at me -- imagine that! Needless to say, I had no 45 mags, or ammo, so that ended that portion of the days festivities.
    The 40 in a 45 was another buddy, grabbed a 40 that was somehow mixed in with his open box of loose packed 45 and it went into the gun, same story, weak report, no cycle and out comes item 3. Those all happened within the last 2 years, so it's not like I intentionally set out to create artfully decorated cases. But I do keep them to remind me of what inattention can cause.

    But since Walk and others have done it and owned up to it, I feel much better now!
    But maybe we have to reconsider having the same gun in multiple calibers? --- naw, what am I thinking?
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2013
  8. Havok7416

    Havok7416 Well-Known Member

    I keep my guns in distinct boxes for range trips with ammo boxes in caliber specific colors for the reasons listed in the OP although I don't have two of any kind of gun that can be mistaken for each other. I also won't let my .44 Mags come to the range with my .45 Colt for similar reasons.
  9. gamestalker

    gamestalker member

    I just remembered an event while shooting dove around a water hole. I was shoving shells into my 870 and dropped one. I bent down picked it up and continued loading the tube. Then as the birds flew in I shot and then shucked another round in, but nothing happened when I pulled the trigger. I thought, mis-fire, and when I tried to eject the suspect shell it didn't come out. After I manually got it out, I discovered it was a 16 ga. shell someone else had dropped where I had dropped my 12 ga. shell. The thing was, is it was exactly the same color and close enough in size I didn't notice. Thankfully it chambered too deep for the firing pin to touch it off.

    I also remember a friend who managed to get his 30-06 mixed up with his .270 win. at the range. Nothing happened other than the necks splitting and accuracy was all over the place. He wasn't a reloader, so he couldn't put the pieces together as to why it even chambered. I was like, yes, 270 win. will chamber just fine in a 30-06.

  10. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    ....so much for the versatility of the .41 cartridge.
  11. Lost Sheep

    Lost Sheep Well-Known Member

    I was loading a few hundred 45ACP last year when I noticed that one
    cartridge required more force crimping (taper crimp, of course) the
    bullet. So, I pulled the suspect cartridge and observed that it was a
    460 Rowland case that somehow had fond its way into my 45 ACP brass.
    (460 Rowland is to 45 ACP as 44 Magnum is to 44 Special - same dimensions
    except for the length.) So, essentially, the case mouth is now swaged into the bullet's side.

    The truly scary part is not that I had failed to detect the stray
    earlier, but that now, with the crimp fully applied in a strong press,
    the cartridge can chamber in a standard 45 ACP barrel. Since the case
    mouth extends past the chamber shoulder and goes into the bullet sides it is a super-crimp (and unlikely to be able to release the bullet). This is a guarantee to destroy a pistol.

    NEVER take ANYTHING for granted.

    Lost Sheep
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2013

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