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5.7x28 - gimmick or useful SD round?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by dubya450, Jun 1, 2012.

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  1. dubya450

    dubya450 Well-Known Member

    I'm sure most of you know what the FN Five-seveN is and if anyone has knowledge about the 5.7x28 round I'd like to hear what you think about it. I picked up a Five-seveN a few months ago along with 1000 rounds and 2 extra mags from cabelas. I really think it's a cool gun, accurate, reliable, light and high capacity. I get alot of mixed opinions from friends/family and strangers at the range. Anything from its the best SD round available to its a useless gimmick (both of which I know aren't true) but what do you all think? Is it a worthy SD round or not? The 1000 rounds I picked up were the ss197 factory ammo with 40gr v-max bullet but i also ordered 50 Elite Ammunition's T6 55gr all copper round. I know there are probably better SD pistol's/calibers and i own many other pistol's from 9mm 10mm 45acp ect. just think the Five-seveN is a cool, different gun.

    So, what's your view on the Five-seveN, or more specifically, the 5.7x28 round?

  2. Shipwreck

    Shipwreck Well-Known Member

    I have two PS90 carbines. I keep a lot of extra ammo. I will only shoot factory ammo, however. I do prefer the 197 over the 195 ammo.

    I have owned other rifles in the past, but these are the only two I have now. I am satisfied with the guns and caliber, and I love the 50 round mags.

    Realize, that EVERY 5.7 thread generally breaks down, with the same handful of guys who have no experience with the round coming to say how much it sucks. They seem to search out the mere mention of the caliber, and swoop down. After many years, I generally avoid these threads because they always end up the same. No one will ever agree.

    Just do what you feel comfortable with.
  3. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    the five-seven was designed to be an effective, controllable FULL AUTO AP ROUND. If you can't have AP or full auto, it's kind of like .22 hornet repackaged for semi-autos. If it's what I had, i'd use it- and empty the mag. It'd be LETHAL, for sure; as a MANSTOPPER, it'd probably work in large numbers. Given that i'm likely to empty WHATEVER into my target no matter what, that's probably a non-issue for me.
    Personally, i don't own semi-autos. I have in the past, and I'd LOVE to have another 10/22, but i don't. For hunting, i like lever guns; they're what i know.
    If i had semi-autos in the stable, i suspect a 5.7 ballistic tip would be my feral cat round of choice. :evil:
  4. Orion8472

    Orion8472 Well-Known Member

    You need to run a search on this topic because it has be hashed and rehashed more than it needs to be. There is no reason to start it all back up again.

    What you will get are those who think it is "just a plinking round. . . and too expensive". Others will state that the round is a very viable round for SD. Others will exclaim it as the best round ever.

    Bottom line is. . . . .search and find.
  5. el Godfather

    el Godfather Well-Known Member

    It is as useful as you want it to be.
  6. longhair75

    longhair75 Well-Known Member

    I handled one at the last gun show, and it felt pretty light. What is the recoil like? It would seem to me that it be pretty heavy.
  7. dubya450

    dubya450 Well-Known Member

    The recoil is very controllable. With a good grip and stance you can stay on target through rapid fire and still group good. Personally I'd say its 50% of the recoil my glock 19 has. Other people may think more or less but either way the felt recoil just isn't there really.
  8. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    If the 5.7x28mm is a "glorified .22", then the .357 magnum is a glorified .380.

    Honestly, the 5.7x28mm imitates rifle capabilities in a pistol package. It comes in a light gun, has light recoil, and has a wound channel bigger than what caliber alone would suggest. And it comes with a bigger flush magazine than any 9mm handgun out there. It does more than just work well full-auto and pierce armor, the energy dump causes enough cavitation trauma to increase the size of the wound channel, and low recoil is good for semi-auto as well.

    On the other hand, there is not a lot of support for the 5.7 yet (its only available in a single-action or a few noname-brand models), there isn't much ammo availability, people don't like reloading bottlenecked cases, and it is loud. Most of these are availability issues as opposed to engineering issues. There's also the problem of the velocity when using it at some pistol ranges (since it functions more like a rifle round) and lack of ammo commonality with a smaller gun (I can get a LC9 and XD9 and use the same ammo in both).

    I think the 5.7x28mm is a great round, and it would have a significant amount of success if another well-known manufacturer (HK, Sig, Beretta, Glock, Springfield, S&W, Ruger, etc) would come out with a few models to spruce up the interest, and more ammunition for this caliber were produced. As it is, it is in sort of a flux where people don't want it due to availability, and it's not available because people don't want it.

    In short, it is definitely a good SD round.
  9. G|0cKbYtE

    G|0cKbYtE Well-Known Member

    I own a Five-seveN and have carried it for well over a year now. I have also participated in some of the forum's exhaustive caliber debates already alluded to. I would recommend you do a search and read through a couple. It will be enlightening for sure.

    As far as your original question; the Five-seveN - like many other pistol calibers - will be just as effective as your aim. The Five-seveN is a pistol, it isn't a death ray. If you shoot somebody in an extremity like the arm, their arm will break, but they won't die.

    The good news is, you have 21 shots to hit the "off button" which is the central nervous system. The gun also exhibits very light recoil relative to other common pistol calibers allowing faster shots on target from less than professional shooters.

    If you have some of EA's new T6 rounds, then you have some of the nastiest Five-seveN rounds available. Any threat to you will not be safe behind car doors, Level IIIa body armor, or other barriers that stop many other pistol rounds. Just aim for center mass and the gun will do the rest.
  10. TimboKhan

    TimboKhan Moderator

    Fellow high roaders

    Feel free to discuss this, but make sure it stays civil. For whatever reason this round brings out the worst in posters. It's just a round, not a reason to resort to zealotry, so keep it civil and factual, please!

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  11. G|0cKbYtE

    G|0cKbYtE Well-Known Member

    No kidding! I'm almost convinced that discussions regarding the 5.7 platform should be treated like religion and politics and relegated to a separate part of the forum. It's that bad.

    Several small forums heavily populated with law enforcement are abnormally set against the platform. But if you think about it, they probably have a point. The Five-seveN in the wrong hands could be a problem due to its unique characteristics. Fortunately, we still have a bit of the 2nd amendment left declaring our rights to protect ourselves from threats - including the government.
  12. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    I'd be interested in seeing the differences in actual performance in gel and other media between 5.7 from the pistol vs. 5.7 from the rifle. Out of a rifle, even a .22 LR can have impressive results.
  13. dubya450

    dubya450 Well-Known Member

    Not that i wish anyone to be shot or have to shoot someone but I'd like to see the real life statistics of actual man stopping power of the 5.7x28 as far as police who use weapons chambered for the round. I have heard that its a pretty nasty varmit load though! it just hasn't been popular enough yet to see major use I guess.
  14. ClickClickD'oh

    ClickClickD'oh Well-Known Member

    Instead of relying on the internet, I just shot some dead pigs with my 5.7 (they come free with the ranch). I'm entirely confident in the performance of the 5.7x28mm round after having done so.
  15. G|0cKbYtE

    G|0cKbYtE Well-Known Member

    Please share your pictures or notes if you have any. I have a lot of pictures and statements saved of people who have taken game with the 5.7 platform.

    Edit: I just noticed you said "dead pigs". I take that to mean they weren't live when you shot them? :)
  16. beex215

    beex215 Active Member

    not really helping but

    looks to be an interesting round and ive always wanted a ps90 sbr. looks to be a very fun toy to play with. its rather expensive for the weapons that chamber that round though.
  17. G|0cKbYtE

    G|0cKbYtE Well-Known Member

    If you do a search of my name in this forum you will stumble into several extremely comprehensive threads providing exactly what you asked for.
  18. EddieNFL

    EddieNFL member

    Where is that?
  19. G|0cKbYtE

    G|0cKbYtE Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this forum has a separate place for religion and politics, but many do. That way those that aren't interested in all the bickering can just avoid all the discussions easily.
  20. TimboKhan

    TimboKhan Moderator

    He is joking. THR does not have religion or politics forum.

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