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642 Club Part Three

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by fiVe, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. Brass Rain

    Brass Rain Well-Known Member

    That's a shame. I can open the GP-100 really easily and comfortably that way, hoped it would work on Smiths, too. That was a point I thought of when considering the LCR. I'll look into those after-market options.

    It truly is a right-handed world. :(

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=756091 is all I can find. Looks more like it would get in the way than actually make opening easier with the left hand.
  2. RetDep310

    RetDep310 Well-Known Member

    Brass Rain:

    I'm left handed, and gotta agree with DAdams as far as using the left thumb, or even the right thumb. Got back into snubbies a couple of years ago, and bought an LCR. Was much easier to work the push button left handed with my index finger. Traded for a 642, and tried a range session using my left index finger to push the latch. Just wound up with a sore finger from the skin being pulled away from the fingernail. Went back to the thumb method!
  3. Sir Paul

    Sir Paul Member

    I recently purchased a S&W 442 and I am considering replacing the stock synthetic grips with Crimson Trace LG-405 Lasergrips. Is there any type of documentation available regarding the installation of the aforementioned grips? Also, is anyone sporting the LG-405 Lasergrips on their S&W 442? If so, how do they look? Thanks.
  4. BRE346

    BRE346 Well-Known Member

    Hello to all

    Good afternoon gentlemen,

    I'm new to firearms. I've been through the concealed Handgun course and passed the shooting test on the second try, with a .45. I bought a Sigma 9mm. It had problems. The factory fixed them. By then I had a Taurus pt111. After a few months the factory has that, too. I have a Taurus 24/7 which is fine, except a little heavy and bulky for carry. While the pt111's gone I've bought a new S&W 642-2. I don't know beans about revolvers. :p

    Method of carry? Holster? How to shoot? Reloading? Maintenance? Weaknesses in the 642?

    I'm counting on the wise ones here to learn all this. :eek:
  5. motorcycle-charlie

    motorcycle-charlie Well-Known Member

    welcome Sir Paul and BRE346...
    the 405 lasergrips.. quite a few members have them and i am sure they will be along with pics shortly.(DAdams)
    method of carry? pocket, iwb,owb,ankle,belly band ect.. that is one of the strong points of this snub. Holster? depends on your method of carry. Mika pocket holsters are very favorable with x42 owners. How to shoot? load it, close it, point and pull. Reloading? i like speed strips bc they lay nice and flat and it is easy to carry more than one. Maintainence? clean it after you shoot, and if it is carried, blow the lint out every now and then. i use CLP Breakfree to clean. Weakness? if there was one i would have to say the 5 round capacity, just practice often and make your shots count.. good luck.
  6. fivewheeler

    fivewheeler Member


    fivewheeler (nice username)
    Beat Trash

    I'm a little late but thanks for the welcome and name compliment.
  7. motorcycle-charlie

    motorcycle-charlie Well-Known Member

    sorry fivewheeler, welcome to you also. good to have you aboard.
  8. DAdams

    DAdams Well-Known Member


    [​IMG] I have CT 405 on a 642-2 and a M&P340.

    Welcome to BRE346 and Sir Paul.

    Wise ones say, Better get reading. ;)

    Short course to jump start. Ammunition (Speer Gold Dot for Short barrel) aka SGDFSB 135 gr Plus P Speer PN 23921. Mika Roundcut Pocket Holster or De Santis Nemesis (not SuperFly) until the Mika arrives.
    Bianchi Speedstrips or HKS 36 Speedloaders, typically available from you local gun shop or Midway.

    There you have it. I just saved you a week of reading. But you missed all the pictures and friendly banter and don't know the cast.:rolleyes: Kind of like coming in on the last episode of the Walking Dead.
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2011
  9. Brass Rain

    Brass Rain Well-Known Member

    What made you decide to trade in your LCR for the 642? I'm considering the LCR, but heavily leaning to the 442 just because I like it more. Not being able to open the cylinder release with my index finger is a negative, though.

    On an unrelated note, I've seen pictures people have taken of the x42s, often posed with speed strips. And I've noticed many times the strips will be loaded two rounds on one end, two rounds on the other, and the two spots in the middle empty. 642s hold five rounds, so why only load four? Is it just to look even in the picture?
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  10. DAdams

    DAdams Well-Known Member

    That's known as the jt1 ;) 2-2 split. Typically you see them with the tab removed too I leave mine tab on. The concept is getting four rounds in quick and back in the fray. Four fast in is better than 5 not so fast. You can pump two in at a time and leave space for your fingers. Try it sometime, it works.



    I carry the Speedstrip in one of these case and 6 rounds if with my 686 or the 2/2 split with the 5 wheeler(s).

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  11. clutch

    clutch Well-Known Member

    Well thanks for the welcome.

    Is the difference between the 642 and the 442 merely the finish? I'm trying to do my due diligence. I had a 642 in my hand today at a local mass merchandiser it was on 'sale' for 459.00 . I'm rather glad to see your post, I almost freed some dead Presidents from my wallet but I hate impulse buys. I tend to find out I bit too quick. I liked the trigger and it felt good in my hand.

    Can you clear one thing up, I looked at Buds site and it had free shipping with an * claiming it didn't cover next day air. Back when I was using my 03FFL for curio's, handguns had to be shipped next day air. Are you getting free shipping for handguns?

    I have a gent that does my transfers for 01FFL stuff that is easy to work with.


  12. DAdams

    DAdams Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Personal preference. Black is a bit stealthier perhaps. The 642 has a clearcote over the finish which apparently will wear with friction and time. Characterize it as personality wear or send it back to S&W someday for refurb if it hangs you up.The black gets some shine/polish at its wear points. Don't use products containing ammonia. Don't use Kleen Bore patches on anything but bare stainless, that means you can use them on the 642 cylinder to remove "racoon eyes" but not on the 442 cylinder. It will remove the finish. No big deal on the 442 since you can't see the carbonization, another reason to go 442.

    Bud's ships free where noted. I think everything they do goes free these days. I don't know how they ship, but it is probably next day, second to third at the most. I have always added the $6 for insurance and have never paid attention to how or who it ships with. Fine print maybe? I suspect UPS or Fed Ex.

    Bud's displayed price is "cash" ie check, money order. They add I think 3% for CC. Me, I'm patient, I reserve with CC, send a personal check and let it clear which makes the cycle/immediate gratification time go up.

    Have your FFL send them their information. Bud's will put them on their list and the next time you just look them up in the drop down menu.

    Double check the model number on their description and cross reference with the S&W site to make sure you are getting what the SKU number states.
    Bud's sometimes has photos that don't match the SKU. It is just a website maintenance issue, their volume is large. Their directions are thorough. I have never spoken with anyone via phone, everything was completed via mail, the check and email. They updated me throughout the process completely.

    I have no affiliation with Bud's and have used them 3 times with no issues. Two handguns and a rifle.
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2011
  13. Brass Rain

    Brass Rain Well-Known Member

    Naat, good to know. Now that I think about it, one could get a couple fingers in that gap to hold onto and push in the first two rounds with the thumb, then without shifting anything, push in the last two with the palm and strip them off. Good stuff, never thought of that as a technique.

    I've been reading and skimming through part 2 of the 642 club. Lots of information on peoples' feelings about loadings, oil, grip choices, etc. And pretty pictures! Very informative. I really want my 442. Just five more months... :fire:
  14. seethesvt

    seethesvt Active Member

    About lubing, I have hoppe's oil and hoppe's grease. So far I've only cleaned it twice, only shot it once, and I only used the oil on the rod that pushes the casings out, I don't know what its called. But I dripped a drop on both sides and slid it back and forth a couple times. And I also put a drop on the hinge, also don't now the name of it. I couldn't thinking of anywhere else to lube it, nor could I thinking of reasons to use grease instead... I'm too last to search through 500,004 posts for my answer and the search function doesn't work with my cell phone.
  15. riceboy72

    riceboy72 Well-Known Member

    After a long, long hiatus, it is awesome to see this thread still alive and kicking -- very well, I might add.

    I sold my original 642 and missed it so. I just picked up another one yesterday after kicking myself over the last few months for selling it, so this one's here to stay and once I had it cleaned up and back on my hip, I remembered immediately why I loved this gun to begin with.

    Now my interest in the Mika has skyrocketed. I think I'll be placing an order tomorrow. What's the general consensus in regards to round versus square?? It seems as if round is the way to go. Anyone have both, and if so, any feedback?? I'd appreciate it.

    Oh, and of course, here's the obligatory photo:

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  16. Brass Rain

    Brass Rain Well-Known Member

    Those Hogue boot grips look to be pretty popular on the x42s. Is there any issue with the rubbery material holding onto clothes?

    Also, how good is the finish on the 442s? I know with daily carry there's not a finish in the world that won't wear eventually, but is it reasonable durable?
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  17. motorcycle-charlie

    motorcycle-charlie Well-Known Member

    Carryin' Reloads

    i also use the same speedstrip wallet. it is from Dillon Precision, but perfer the 2-3 split. you get all 5 for a reload and still have room for a finger in the middle. i carry the reload on the belt at about the 4 O'clock or 4:30 position strongside. sometimes in addition to..a second strip wallet in the same position weakside. with some practice, access to the reload and actual reloading can be pretty fast. but it takes practice. when i shoot the 442 i usually reload 80-90% of my ammo from this scenerio. practice.

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  18. rdrancher

    rdrancher Well-Known Member

    Personally I would order the round-cut first. I have both and use the round-cut pretty much all the time. I've found it to be the most versatile of the two in my pants pockets (mostly jeans.) I do use the square cut in cargo shorts in the summer and the inside pocket of my ranch coat in the winter.

    I have a bunch of pocket holsters, but the Mika versions get used the most. They are a bit bulkier than the cloth ones like Uncle Mikes, but offer a much better draw and don't lose their shape over time.

    In fact, I spoke to a gun writer / retired LAPD after I saw an old Mika (minus the grip band) in one of his articles. I forget how many years he said that he'd been using the holster...but it was a bunch! Used daily for years on the job and now in retirement, the holster still performs as designed.

  19. riceboy72

    riceboy72 Well-Known Member

    Brass Rain ~ The first thing I've done with each 642 I've had over the last three years was replace the original boot grips with the Hogue Batam. I think they're the ideal rubber grip. They, to me, seem to absorb recoil better, and I like the cobblestone texture and palm swell. It's also 'stickier' than the original boot grips, be they the Uncle Mike's or the newest version. They aren't so sticky, however, where I've ever had an issue with it not wanting to come out of my pocket when I did pocket carry. At $17.99, I strongly recommend them if you prefer a boot grip, but are looking for a better option than the factory original. Mind you, they're the same size as the original grips, so you will still have that wandering pinky that has to huddle up under the butt.

    As for the finish, I've never had an issue with mine. I'm very meticulous about using only Hoppe's Elite and have a small cleaning kit specifically dedicated to this gun.

    rdrancher ~ Thanks for your feedback with the Mika. I am going to order one as soon as I get off this page. It's nice to see he's so customer oriented and makes what many opine to be the best pocket holster for the x42. I had and used the DeSantis Nemesis for years, but I always knew there was better out there. Now I'll give the Mika round a try.

    As for carrying reloads, I carry two Bianchi Speed Strips in a leather cel phone case on my hip. It holds two strips nicely and allows me to pull them out one at a time, without pulling the other one free. It, to me, is the ideal carry case for two reloads, and it looks like a cel phone on my hip. 10 extra rounds of .38 and no one is the wiser ... not even me half the time.


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  20. RetDep310

    RetDep310 Well-Known Member

    I got back into snubbies after retiring from law enforcement. Usually carried a small auto back-up then. When the LCR first came out, I just loved the look and the grips. Trigger on mine was good, and shot like a dream. Just got a wild hair one day when I noticed a 2.5 inch 642 sitting in the case at my local gun dealer, and decided I had to have it, but needed to make a trade. Love both of them, but only "needed" one. Just boils down to that I just like the Smith's better. Had several in my pre-law enforcement days.
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