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7.62x39 defensive ammo

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Timradcliffe345, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. I am looking for excellent 7.62x39 defensive ammo.

    Someone recommended me Wolf MC HP. Is there anything better than this out there? If so what? Thanks.
  2. gunNoob

    gunNoob Well-Known Member

    incendiary ammo :)

  3. JImbothefiveth

    JImbothefiveth Well-Known Member

    You'll set your house on fire with those!
  4. Bodo

    Bodo Well-Known Member

    cor bon 125gr jhp muzz vel is 2400 or fed 123gr sp or rem 123gr sp. dont know the vel for these two.
  5. AK103K

    AK103K Well-Known Member

    There are soft point versions available. I have some from both Wolf and the old Barnaul, which I think is being sold under the Brown and Silver Bear brands now.

    Most of the HP's really are nothing more than a FMJ with a whole in the tip. They are neither target nor hunting rounds.

    I've had the best luck accuracy wise, with the Barnaul 125 grain SP's. They are made like Sierra's Game Kings, with a jacketed base.

    I've also had good luck with the Wolf 154 grain SP's. These have the normal "roll crimped" bases, but still shoot very well, or at least the lot I have does. I usually get 3-4" groups (from a rest) with it at 200 yards.
  6. RockyMtnTactical

    RockyMtnTactical Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't use Wolf, it's not known to be reliable enough (in any caliber) to be trusted for self defense. I prefer a better, more reliable manufacturer, like Barnaul, Bear, etc...
  7. rob_s

    rob_s Well-Known Member

  8. Z-Michigan

    Z-Michigan Well-Known Member

    I saw photos of MC 124gr JHP tested posted at AR15.com... results are very impressive, similar to the best 6.8 SPC tests I've seen. That would be my choice. Shoot lots to make sure it goes bang, if that worries you, and definitely shoot enough to make sure it feeds in your gun since it has a fairly big hollow point and a different profile than FMJ bullets in that caliber.
  9. davepool

    davepool Well-Known Member

    I've put over 500 rnds of Wolf black box, and almost 1000 rnds of Wolf military classic through my Yugo m70 and haven't had one failure to boom. ballistically i think any 7.62x39 would be more than enough for self defence
  10. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    Any round should do OK, the military issue is FMJ, and it has garnerd a rep over the last "few" years. :)
    I am finding the best 123gr SP handload I can whip up for holycow ammo. But Wolf will do if the bovine species feces hits the rotating occilator.
  11. BammaYankee

    BammaYankee Well-Known Member

    A few years back I bought some ammo loaded with 123 VMAX's. The company was D&S Mfg. and sold through Midway USA if I remember correctly. Anyway, they shoot clean, are pretty accurate, and will shred a water filled cat litter jug at 50 yards! I imagine you could reload your own and get similar results. These would definitely be a good SD/HD load!
  12. polik6887

    polik6887 Active Member


    the wolf military classic JHP (using the 8m3 bullet), fragment as you can see above.

    wolf MC JHP is the best self defense round I have found, when you factor in penetration and price. next is the remington SP, they expand well, but dont penetrate as well and are more money. I have read reviews of wolf SP saying they have inconsistent expansion.

    check here for more discussion of frag ranges and velocity,as well as phonebook testing.

  13. RP88

    RP88 Well-Known Member

    a soft-point and hollow-point will be your best bet. FMJ is going to bring liability issues your way when you use it and it goes through your house and hits your neighbor's house/car/dog/kid/face
  14. Deus Machina

    Deus Machina Well-Known Member

    Any soft- or hollow-point bullet, as long as it's 100% reliable.

    I've seen DPX in x39. It's marketed as a hunting round, but considering it's DPX that would make me comfortable carrying a .380, I think it will do the job in a x39.

    Only suggesting that because I have yet to find Gold Dots for my AK. :p
  15. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    You can consider penetration and expansion on a human target, but I'd consider reliability paramount over all other factors. Now, take two brands that are equally reliable in your rifle and start figuring other factors. If you can run 200 rounds through your rifle without a burp or fart, you've got a good starting point.
  16. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

    Are there any current sources for the VMAX loads?

    Otherwise, Cor-Bon's light JHP would be my choice. With 7.62x39mm, overpenetration would be my primary concern with most loads, unless you live in a brick or masonry house.
  17. BattleChimp Potemkin

    BattleChimp Potemkin Well-Known Member

    Graf and Sons has Vmax tipped (or I thought they did) remanufactured ammo, for around 13 bucks a box. Brassfetcher.com did a test on them and they FRAGMENT CRAZY!! Not sure how well that would translate to home defense, but blowthrough would be minimal at that.
  18. Z-Michigan

    Z-Michigan Well-Known Member

    The HP and SP bullets won't deform and stop unless they hit living tissue. If you miss the bad guy, they will go through just as many walls as the FMJ.

    I still think the HP is the best choice, but don't have unrealistic ideas about safety from overpenetration.
  19. nathan

    nathan Well-Known Member

    Hit them in the center of mass and it will fall like it should be.
  20. Mike U.

    Mike U. Well-Known Member

    Originally posted by RockyMtnTactical:

    Can you point me to some evidence of this assertion?

    Reason being, I've never had a failure of any kind with the Wolf black box and I've run at least a thousand rounds through it. That's not to say it doesn't happen. Just, I've never seen evidence of it in my experience.

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