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7mm Rem Mag or 30-06?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Blackhawkdc, Dec 5, 2006.


Which cartridge?

Poll closed Dec 15, 2006.
  1. 7mm Remington Mag

    30 vote(s)
  2. 30-06 Springfield

    98 vote(s)
  3. Other (please state)

    8 vote(s)
  1. Blackhawkdc

    Blackhawkdc Active Member

    Here's my position. I'm currently in the process of ordering a new rifle. I have already decided which rifle to get. I'm going to purchase a new Savage 116FHSAK. That is the synthetic stocked, stainless steel long action rifle with a muzzle brake(selectible).

    Here's my dilema though. I'm tossed up between either 7mm Remington Magnum, or the Springfield 30.06 load. What are some pros and cons to both cartridges? Recoil, Accuracy, availabilty, cost (I'll be reloading). Any other attributes? Here's the use I'll have the rifle for. The main use will be Whitetail Deer hunting in Minnesota here. But I also want to be able to use it for moose, elk, bear and also still be able to practice with it at the range.

    Both rounds seem to have a good selection of choices for bullets. the .30 cal having a slight advantage. From what I've seen, the 7mm has a slightly flatter trajectory and a little longer range.

    What are people's thoughts between these two rounds? Please don't just say one round or the other. I'd like some actual reasons.


    Seth Petro
  2. MrDig

    MrDig Well-Known Member

    No question about it the 7mm has better Ballistic Coefficients than 30.06. If you reload you will be able to tweak the 30.06 to get effictive range out of it, that is comparable to the 7mm. The opposite end of that argument is that the 7mm when tweaked will far out shoot the 30.06.
    I like 30.06 and like to shoot it so I would get the 30.06. But it really is a Ford Chevy discussion, and boils down to preferance.
  3. Father Knows Best

    Father Knows Best Well-Known Member

    Either of those cartridges is serious overkill for whitetails, but on the low end of acceptable for moose, elk and bear (depending on what kind of bear). I'm not generally a fan of compromise cartridges. If you don't have any elk, moose or bear hunts planned right now, focus on getting a great deer rifle (30-30, .243, .270 and 6.5x55 are my favorites), and buy yourself a more powerful rifle if and when you schedule a trip to go after something bigger.
  4. killzone

    killzone Well-Known Member

    7mm STW:evil:
  5. trainwreck100

    trainwreck100 Well-Known Member

    I voted 7 mag, but I'm going to repeal that and say 300 Win. Mag. That's the real one...but I shoot a .30-06, I inherited it (old Remington 700BDL, NIB) so it's what I've got, and no, it's not overkill for whitetail, but I think it would be plenty effective on heavier game also if your shooting silvertips. No doubt 300 Mag is a good deal bigger though.

  6. Shawnee

    Shawnee member

    Hi Balckhawk...

    Do yourself a HUGE favor and buy the Savage rifle in 7mm-08.

    Local opinions may vary. :)
  7. Lambo119

    Lambo119 Well-Known Member

    I voted for the 7mm. 30-06 will be more forgiving to the pocket book. But you said you wanted to hunt moose and the 7mm is the lesser of two evils only because it is a belted magnum. In my opinion its still to light for moose.
  8. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    Since you will be reloading, there are no cons to the .30-06.

    .30-06 pro's: Quality brass available (Lapua, Norma), a wider range of quality bullets, no stupid case belt to deal with.

    7mm Rem Mag con's: Quality brass not available, stupid belt on the case, shorter barrel life.

    Either one will work for the purposes you have described, I just feel that since you have a modern action and are a reloader, you can load the .30-06 up to it's potential and give away nothing to the 7mm Rem Mag. Recoil and the cost to reload will be similar, and the accuracy will be up to how good your handloading skills are.

  9. AK-74me

    AK-74me Well-Known Member

    Don, pretty much summed it up in my opinion, when you weigh the pro's vs. cons of the two, 30.06 beats the 7mm mag. in most instances IMHO.
  10. MrDig

    MrDig Well-Known Member

    Blackhawkdc, Where abouts in the Northstar, land of 10,000 lakes, and otherwise Great State of MN are you from? and where will you be hunting? Maybe some range time and such are in order. I live in the north suburban area of " da cities" so we could meet up don'tchaknow
  11. byf43

    byf43 Well-Known Member

    USSR wrote:
    AK-74me wrote:

    Ditto. .30-'06 hands down.
    Celebrate the "ought-six's" 100 year old birthday. Buy it.

  12. MRJ152

    MRJ152 Member

    I use a 30-06 and reload my own shells also. Without a doubt 30-06. Probably the most versatile gun you can buy from a bullet standpoint. Plenty of power for anything you want to kill especially reloading your own shells. Perfect for whitetail. I hunt PA whitetail, black bear, ect.

    However you might want to look at a .308 similar to an 06 only shorter action. Pretty comparable speeds too.
  13. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    I voted 'other'. For the uses you've described, I'd either go 300 WinMag or 338 WinMag. If you remove the moose or bear, I'd suggest 270.
  14. Terrierman

    Terrierman Well-Known Member

    There are stacks and stacks of dead game of every description that have met their maker at the hands of a man with his .30-06. It's better for what you want due to the ability to find and load heavier bullets for the stuff on the bigger end of your list. You're not under gunned with a .30-06 for anything on this continent, including the big bears - assuming you're smart enough to pick your shots and hit where you've aimed.

    And it really is a lot easier to load well for than the 7mm.
  15. Ranger 40

    Ranger 40 member

    The old '06 is a fine round. It will do about every thing you need for eastern hunting. If you plan to hunt western plains game it would have to be the 7MM
    Rem. Mag. You can hardly beat the 7MMs when comes to reach.
  16. Lonestar.45

    Lonestar.45 Well-Known Member

    I think both would work great for your intended use. If it were me though, I'd go for the 30-06, simply because of the wider variety of ammo choices and somewhat lower potential recoil depending on the ammo you choose. Also, 30-06 ammo is usually less expensive and more readily available.
  17. benelli12

    benelli12 Well-Known Member

    both are great cartriges, but the 7mm doesn't have the range of bullets as the 30-06, and the 30-06 has much cheaper ammo, and has plenty of power.
    I love my Remington 700 30-06
  18. umc180gr

    umc180gr Well-Known Member


    I sold my 7mm mag and bought a .30/06 Remington model 700 and have not looked back since. More economical to reload 06 and kicks less too. My 7mag always just seemed to beat me up. My vote is for the .30/06, over a hundred years old and still kicking whitetail butt.
  19. Schleprok62

    Schleprok62 Well-Known Member

    hmmm... 30-06 or 7mm Mag... why not just get a .280 Rem and have the best of both worlds and split the difference??? :evil: :neener: :scrutiny:

    Both are very good rounds... each with their own history and reputation... as said before, it's really a matter of your own preference... which do YOU want?
  20. Hutch

    Hutch Well-Known Member

    Some hunting buddies and I were planning a hunt out West, and there was talk over a beer that a flatter shooting cartridge than our customary ones was called for (ought-six (two of us), .308, and a 7mm-08). Looking at the hottest, flattest shooting loads for each of the above, and comparing that to a 7mm Mag, we made the following discovery:

    It doesn't matter.

    I don't have my table in front of me now, but IIRC, comparing flattest (7Mag) to least (.308), with hunting bullets, and sighted in at ~ 225 yards, the difference in drop between the 7Mag and .308 at 300yds was less than 2 inches. I don't know about y'all, but that's well within the margin of error for shooting in the field. No animal would know the difference.

    All that being said to support the argument that the .30-'06 is the best, for all the reasons previously stated, plus that one of my own.

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