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7x57 mauser vs 243 for son

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by gadawg31, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. gadawg31

    gadawg31 Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone,
    I have a question about a potential gun purchase. A friend of mine has a old military 7mm mauser (7x57mm) and is getting rid of it. He states it would be great of my son to use for hunting. (My son is 10, so trying to keep the recoil down). He also has a bolt action 243 rifle and I am torn between the two. If the recoil is comparible to the 243, me personally would rather get the mauser, just because he would have some military history as well as a good hunting rifle. What does everyone think about the two rifles? Which one would you recommend for my kid? Thanks.

  2. joed

    joed Well-Known Member

    Go with the .243 and don't look back. For one it has less recoil and is a modern firearm. The military mauser would make a better tomato stake in my opinion.
  3. helotaxi

    helotaxi Well-Known Member

    The 7mm will have more recoil but neither should be that bad. 7x57 ammo isn't nearly as common as .243 so that might be worth considering if you don't reload or have a source of 7x57 ammo.
  4. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    IMHO, a ten year old should be hunting rabbits and squirrels.
  5. Bwana John

    Bwana John Well-Known Member

    7mm x 57mm Mauser is one of the finest hunting cartridges available.

    However, if the rifle does not mount a modern optic, or have have a good trigger, or a comfortable stock which fits you will be handicapping your boy.

    And, please don't "Bubba" a historic military rifle. :cuss:

    Also, many 7mm Mauser rifles are M-93/95, if you wish to use full house reloads a M-98 is preferable.

    Most 7mm Mauser ammo available in the US is downloaded because of it being chambered is older rifles like the Remington Rolling Block.

    I suggest a modern rifle like a M-700, M-70, or M-77 chambered for 7mm Mauser :cool:
  6. shaggy430

    shaggy430 Well-Known Member

    I killed my first deer when I was 9, with a .243. Killed 2 more when I was 10. A child's maturity is the deciding factor, not age.
  7. morcey2

    morcey2 Well-Known Member

    Either one would work, depending on the area and type of hunting.

    Caveat: Check the bore on both of them. The mauser could have anything from a pristine, never-been-fired bore to a sewer pipe. Military mausers also generally have very long throats and this can cause some accuracy issues with off the shelf ammunition. It also depends on the configuration of the mauser. If it's still in full military dress, it will probably be too heavy for a 10-year-old, and the sights will need some work to get it hitting at POA for useful hunting distances. If it has a scope mounted or has aftermarket sights, that would definitely be better.

    The 7x57 is my favorite all around cartridge at the moment so I'm somewhat biased, but I would pick the 243, unless the condition of the mauser is significantly better than the 243. If he'll let you shoot them both to decide, that would be even better.

  8. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

    Go with the lighter of the two. Also, fit is important. Be sure that the stock is not too long.
  9. j1

    j1 Well-Known Member

    Easy, get the 243 for him and the 7 mm for you. After shooting it you and he will soon know how he likes the 7 mm.:)
  10. MarshallDodge

    MarshallDodge Well-Known Member

    .243 for all the reasons listed.
  11. RPRNY

    RPRNY Well-Known Member

  12. Boxhead

    Boxhead Well-Known Member

    What are you assuming the 243 is?
  13. viking499

    viking499 Well-Known Member

    Between the 2, I would go 243.

    But you could substitute the 7x57 with a 7mm-08. Basically the short action version of a 7x57.
  14. Arkansas Paul

    Arkansas Paul Well-Known Member

    This group was shot with a military Mauser and my handloads. And it's the original military barrel too. Never saw a tomato stake do that.


    That being said, I agree with the .243 choice in your instance. It's prolly ready to go, where you would have to have the Mauser drilled and tapped, the bolt turned down, and likely a different stock to be comfortable for a 10 year old. I LOVE Mausers, but they are generally project guns that require time and effort, not to mention a few dollars if you can't do the work yourself.
  15. gadawg31

    gadawg31 Well-Known Member

    WOW, thanks for all the great inputs. I really like your idea j1. 243 for him and mauser for me. I think the boss lady will really go for that. LOL! After consideration and all your inputs, I think the 243 is the better choice. As for your comment "CraigC", it doesn't even warrant a negative response. My 10yr old son has been shooting since he was 5 and can ring the 6" bell at 200yds with my dads M1 garand and that is with open sites. Thanks guys for all the input. I may make this a xmas present. I'll try and remember to post some pics of the rifle. Take care and Happy Shooting.

  16. RPRNY

    RPRNY Well-Known Member

    FWIW, I don't think CraigC's comment was offered in a spirit of negativity or to denigrate the boy's shooting abilities.

    The best was to learn to hunt is to start on squirrels and rabbits. They're small, so shot precision is emphasized. They are very mobile, so quick set up and sighting is important. And, generally speaking, he can shoot a ton of squirrels whereas he may only get one deer per season. When he's nailed 20 squirrels and 10 rabbits, he'll be less prone to buck fever and better prepared to drop a dream buck with his awesome new .243 rifle.
  17. gadawg31

    gadawg31 Well-Known Member

    RPRNY, I can see that view. However; I think a blanket statement without knowledge of the situation would tend to make anyone's comment sound offensive. I will definately not lose any sleep over this, and that is why I gave a little of my sons shooting background. Take care.

  18. courtgreene

    courtgreene Well-Known Member

    you could just let him use the garand if he's already good with it.
  19. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    I don't know why everybody is so quick to get offended.

    Exactly! There is a natural progression in everything. It has nothing to do with machismo or your son's maturity as a young man and everything to do with learning the craft. He'll learn more in one afternoon of squirrel hunting than he will a season of deer hunting.
  20. gadawg31

    gadawg31 Well-Known Member

    CraigC, Never once said I was offended. Those were assumptions made, based on what I said. Anywho, my point was don't make blanket statements unless you know that someone has zero hunting experience. Hense, my statement of ...shooting since he was five... I guess for some, I should have stated shooting and hunting, but neither here nor there, he is very much ready for the next level. Thanks for the advise/opinion and no hard feelings. JD

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