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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by horsemen61, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Well-Known Member

    ok guys here it is I need info on 9mm and tips im going to start reloading for it thank you
  2. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    I like 124/125gr bullets for the 9mm and I load lead and jacketed bullets.

    I like medium burn powders in the 9mm and use mostly W231/HP-38 for range ammo and Longshot or HS-6 for more serious work.

    Use the powder companies online load data sites for powders charges and cross reference with a manual or two you should have on hand.

    Is that enough information?
  3. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Well-Known Member

    i will use win 231 as powder
  4. Steve Koski

    Steve Koski Well-Known Member

    Get a reloading manual. Read it. It will cover more than you can read about on forums.
  5. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Well-Known Member

    guys i reload other calibers this isnt my first time just with 9mm it is
  6. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Good advise so far, as far as they could go. Answering questions on a forum is just like calculus, the more givens we have (info from you) to start, the better the answers can be.

    So far now we know you reload other calibers, and that you intend to use W-231.

    Pick a middle of the road charge from your favorite load book or data source for W-231 and work up as usual. I like 124/5 Gr bullets as well.
  7. MtnCreek

    MtnCreek Well-Known Member

    Have you loaded for low volume/ high pressure cartridges before? The margins are much smaller with these types of cartridges. Anything from bullet design, seating depth, small variations in charge weight can result in large pressure swings. It’s an easy cartridge to load, but there are some things that you’ll have to pay closer attention to.
  8. hentown

    hentown Well-Known Member

    I use AA#5 and small rifle primers, exclusively, for loading 9mm.
  9. Steve2md

    Steve2md Well-Known Member

    My kids like my 9mm, so I tend to load range ammo for them with 115gn plated and .5cc Power Pistol. It's a starting load from lee, but cycles my G19 just fine. Plus, they can help out loading on a lee loader at the bench with me while I use the press to load for my .45
  10. mike.h

    mike.h Well-Known Member

    I've been reloading 9mm for a couple months, they are a little more involved then reloading the .45acp, but no big deal. I've used Berry's 124 RNHB and FNHB, prefer the Flat Nose. I've also tried LSWC's but my favorite are the moly's from Precision Bullets. I'm finding the 147FP's are a little more accurate then the 125FP's.

    Powders include Bullseye and WSF. Get a couple reloading manuals if you don't already have them. A lot of good info on this site, but you might also try ammosmith:http://www.ammosmith.com/forum/
  11. 2bfree

    2bfree Well-Known Member

    My load for my CZ 75 D PCR is 4.4 of Win 231, plated RN 124, with an OAL of 1.140. Works for me.
  12. 918v

    918v Well-Known Member

    Rifle primers may erode your breechface. 9mm is picky, but what I have found to work well in a variety of guns is a .358" 125gr lead TC on top or 3.8grs of 231 loaded to a 1.050" OAL. This load is very accurate and cycles everything reliably. It clocks a little over 1000 FPS.
  13. coalman

    coalman Well-Known Member

    Get a reloading guide (like the ABCs of Reloading) and read it.
    Start with 124gr FMJ
    Start with a popular mid-burn rate powder with lots of load data
    Follow load data, compare with intenet posting data and start low
    Start with a typical OAL
    Measure and check often
    Go slow starting out
    Load 10 of each OAL/charge and check before loading lots
    Get a Dillon press

    Yes, they can, especially in weak loads. I speak from experience. Load them near(er) the top end and it goes away. I just stick with SPP now.
  14. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Well-Known Member

    Guys I'm loading a 115 grain hornady fmj over 4.3 grains of win 231 with once fired brass to start ill get some soon also using Winchester small pistol primers
  15. 3leggeddog

    3leggeddog Well-Known Member

    9mm load

    i FOUND THAT w231 at 4.1 gr with a 124 plated jrn at a AOL of 1.142 works great . Good accuracy... M+P9 compact...
  16. BYJO4

    BYJO4 Well-Known Member

    I load 115 gr FMJ with 4.2 gr of Bullseye and normally Winchester primer but have used other SP primers just fine.
  17. J_McLeod

    J_McLeod Well-Known Member

    My XD cycles some of the time with that combination. My favorite load is a 115gr MT Gold over 4.8-4.9gr 231 at 1.135 or a 147gr MBC cast bullet over 4.8gr HS-6 at 1.078.
  18. 1SOW

    1SOW Well-Known Member

    That load will be pretty light as the manuals will show.
    Only load a few to see if your pistol will run with it.
    Load a few more .1 or .2 grs more powder
    Load a few more another .1 grs more powder.
    Fire your 4.3gr loads first. Then the next, then the next.
    Do you have a chrono? If so, It'll indicate a comparison with the load data numbers.
    If not, I'd make just above mid-range the max. load 'til you get more familiar with loading 9mm.

    JMO: Familiar: the importance of "seating depth" vs "oal" using different nose-shape bullets, how your bullet and gun react to small 231 powder changes, how proportional oal and powder changes can work 'up to a point' inside the published load data.

    9mm just leaves a little less room for errors than bigger case calibers do. Small changes "can" make a big difference at the low and high end of the load data.

    231/HP-38 is a good choice to start with. LOTS of other powders will work with 9mm Luger . Some work best at the high end, others at the low end. 231 will run sooty when at the low end, but will work over a good speed range.
  19. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Well-Known Member

    Ok guys in light of what i see here ill probably move to 4.5 grains to start being a semi auto and all if it don't cycle that's no good.
  20. gamestalker

    gamestalker member

    Mt. Creek said it best. If you are new to this hobby it wouldn't be a bad idea to start with a slower burning powder as it is far more forgiving in these small high pressure cartridges. HS6 and Longshot will allow for error and the learning curve while providing you with a stout load if desired.

    Many fail to realize that the 9mm is a high pressure cartridge to start with and that very small variations in seating depth and or powder charges using fast burnng powders such as W231 can cause pressures to spike very high. With powders such as HS6 and Longshot it is doubtful that you could even get enough powder into the case to cause a regretful situation. I know, I once loaded 147 gr. XTP's with a 115 gr. charge of Longshot and nothing happened. The only effect was that my velocities exceeded those published in the book by 50 fps and my primers were flowing out to the edges of the pocket pretty good. If I had made that same mistake using W231 or another fast burning powder I would have blow that pistol to pieces!


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