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A Carbine. What Caliber?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Panzercat, Mar 16, 2013.


What flavor of Carbine?

Poll closed Mar 31, 2013.
  1. .45acp

  2. 9mm

  3. 10mm

  4. .40sw

  5. .357sig

  1. Panzercat

    Panzercat Well-Known Member

    So you're building a carbine to do everything. What caliber is it in? Why?
  2. C0untZer0

    C0untZer0 Well-Known Member

    The Tavor will have a 5.56 / 9mm conversion kit for it.

    I think 10mm carbine are impossible to find, it would be easier to get a 44 magnum like one of the old Rugers.

    9mm seems to be the most common caliber for a handgun cartridge carbine.
  3. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

    The 10mm will gain the most from extra barrel, and is also far and away the most potent of those listed.

    However, if you're just wanting a plinker, 9mm has the obvious cost benefit.

    I've had 2 9mm carbines, sold both. Still have my Marlin Camp 45, but don't use it much. PCCs are mostly just kinda useless, IMO. The only one I own that really has utility is the Marlin 1894 .44 mag, which puts down power on par with .30-30 Win from the 16" barrel.
  4. jmr40

    jmr40 Well-Known Member

    A carbine is a short rifle, I like rifle calibers in shorter barrels much better than pistol calibers in long barrels. Magnum rounds such as 357 and 44 are possible exceptions. Make mine an AR in 223.
  5. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    Based on autoloader pistol ammo I have on hand:
    .45 ACP (AutoOrdnance 1911A1 clone pistol, TM1 carbine)
    .40 S&W (H&K USP)
    7x62x25mm (CZ 52)

    The use I forsee for a pistol caliber carbine is the scenario of me on the mountain, hanging around after everyone else has gone, to plink out to 65 yards, maybe needing protection from medium size feral or rabid animal. .45 ACP is adequate and economical.
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2013
  6. mavracer

    mavracer Well-Known Member

    300 Blackout.
  7. Furncliff

    Furncliff Well-Known Member

    Marlin Camp 9
    HiPoint 4595
    Marlin 1894 .357

    Choice? The Marlin 1894c in 38/357

    My Camp 9 has suffered from erratic reliability and is with my gunsmith now. The Hp4595 is totally reliable, but the Marlin in 357 mag gains the most umph in the longer barrel (1900fps with a 158 gr hand load). It's the most accurate and carries the best as well.
  8. bikerbill

    bikerbill Well-Known Member

    I voted 9mm for two reasons ... I already own one, and I have a solid supply of 9mm to make sure I don't run out ... recoil is mild and I love the reach-out-and-touch-it accuracy out to about 100 yrds ...
  9. firesky101

    firesky101 Well-Known Member

    9x25 dillon... a man can dream.
  10. Torian

    Torian Well-Known Member

    Have you considered a .30 carbine? It's still one of the best platforms of all time IMO.
  11. Rexster

    Rexster Well-Known Member

    None of the above! "Everything" is a broad task; no autoloading pistol cartridge meets that goal. My Browning BLRs, chambered in .308 Winchester, are pretty good carbines for "everything."

    Why did you post this in the Handguns-Autoloaders section? A carbine is a type of rifle.
  12. Panzercat

    Panzercat Well-Known Member

    Notice they are all autoloading pistol calibers. Hmmmm...
  13. Torian

    Torian Well-Known Member

    Carbine = uses pistol calibers.
    Rifle = uses rifle calibers.
  14. Kiln

    Kiln Well-Known Member

    Carbine simply means short rifle. It doesn't have to be chambered in a pistol cartridge. This really should be in the rifle section but oh well, I'll put in my two cents anyways.

    I'd go with 9mm. It is usually the cheapest and easiest to find (unless there's a panic going on).

    It also has a wide variety of loadings available which makes it suitable for lots of uses. The rifle length barrel helps with velocity too so the 9mm is more impressive from a carbine length gun than your average pistol.
  15. dusty14u

    dusty14u Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately this is incorrect. A carbine is a shortened version of same caliber long arm

    A sub machine gun is a pistol caliber while a machine gun is a rifle caliber.

    I like my KT Sub2000 in 9mm. With the 16" barrel it is close to. 357mag performance.
  16. jeff-10

    jeff-10 Well-Known Member

    Ruger Mini 14 (Mini 10) type carbine in 10mm that takes Glock 20 magazines would be perfect. Too bad Ruger or anyone else will never make one.
  17. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

    Nope. Carbine simply means short rifle. To denote that it is chambered in a pistol cartridge, one says pistol caliber carbine, or PCC in these groups.

    Conversely, a long arm chambered in a pistol cartridge isn't necessarily a carbine. But that would be subjective. Of course, it would be rather silly to have a long barreled firearm chambered in a cartridge that maxxes out with considerably less tube. Rimfires seem exempt from this logic, though...

    There is no hard and fast rule on barrel length for the definition, but generally in modern terms, < 20" is carbine, > 20" is rifle.
  18. esheato

    esheato Well-Known Member

    I've got ARs...and when I wanted a pistol-caliber carbine, I went with a 9mm. Cheap to shoot, low recoil, and I've got ammo cans (plural) in the garage.
  19. Panzercat

    Panzercat Well-Known Member

    Carbine has a lot of definition overlap. The rifle forum would have complained for exactly the same reason, but I'm posting here because of the auto loading pistol calibers. If we were talking a carbine in 5.56, then I'd be over there :D

    Surprised not many fans of 40sw, tho.
  20. jeff-10

    jeff-10 Well-Known Member

    I think I read somewhere that the 40 S&W is very efficient and does not get much added velocity from a carbine length barrel.

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