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A few beers and gun to the head

Discussion in 'Legal' started by MechAg94, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member


    I hadn't seen anything on this before. I thought it was very interesting. Any of our Australian members have a comment? Just how common is this?
  2. scout26

    scout26 Well-Known Member

    Nope, didn't happen, all of Oz turned in their guns. It's now a violence free dingo petting zoo.

    If they would just ban Subaru WRX's the violence will end....... I guess this falls under the catagory of "Car Crimes".
  3. romma

    romma Well-Known Member

    Leave the bars and go home to have a beer, they'll be along there next shortly. Apparently the Australian institution of being defensless is alive and well though. Let's not let this happen here...
  4. IfYouOnlyKnew

    IfYouOnlyKnew Well-Known Member

    We hosted an Australian exchange student in 1998. He and his parents visited us a few weeks ago. They live in Sydney. I asked them about reports I had seen on another board of Clockwork Orange type attacks in some cities. They seemed very puzzled. They admitted there were a few areas that were better to avoid as you would expect in any large city but nothing serious or widespread. :confused:
  5. Dravur

    Dravur Well-Known Member


    <quote> If you've been robbed and want something done about it, ring us on 02 9288 3387 <quote...>

    <Deep Breath>

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  6. Axman

    Axman Well-Known Member

    If you've been robbed and want something done about it, you should have dialed .357!!!
  7. ArfinGreebly

    ArfinGreebly Moderator Emeritus

    Car Crime

    Yes, car crime indeed.


    Something must be done. The WRX is clearly only designed for fast getaways.

    No honest person needs a high performance car.

    These "getaway" and "assault" cars must be banned.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2007
  8. strambo

    strambo Well-Known Member

    When you ban guns...only criminals will have Katanas and WRX's...sometimes guns. Those tricky thugs keeps switching tactics faster than the banners can keep up! I say double the size of the legislature so they can pass laws 24/7!!! It's for the drunk fathers of the children!:eek:
  9. thexrayboy

    thexrayboy Well-Known Member

    Thats right, it would tend to remind Aussies that the police are powerless to defend them and they allowed their own government to disarm them making them just so many sheep to be fleeced. Better to not allow such footage to be shown so that the citizenry can keep their heads firmly in the sand...or up
    their ***. What a shame. I used to think Aussies were some of the most independent people on the planet, apparently they didn't enjoy their independence and gave it up for the promise of safety.
  10. daniel (australia)

    daniel (australia) Well-Known Member

    Before it becomes necesary to put on hip waders in here, it is worth noting that we are well into election mode in NSW, and the Daily Telegraph is a rag well known for ramping up the law and order debate at such times, as well as nakedly partisan in its support of the State opposition. It should be noted that the reports are of one, sometimes two armed robberies per day in a city of over 4 million population.

    There have however been some glimmers here of recognition in the media that the whole gun buyback was a waste of time, with a recent study which showed that there had been essentially no effect on crime rates getting quite a bit of press recently. Stories like the above have been accompanied in recent days with reports that significant numbers of guns were, as a result of incompetence and dishonesty in relation to the buyback, siphoned-off and redirected to criminals, a fact that also hasn't escaped attention. This for example was in last Tuesday's Sydney Morning Herald:


    BTW while gun owners have indeed been subjected to increased restrictions there are in fact significantly more firearms in legal private ownership here than before the buybacks. Not everyone here is a sheep;)
  11. xsquidgator

    xsquidgator Well-Known Member

    But, the Austalians have made it easier to get a CWP in New York City than in Australia. Not good. The thing about the police basically censoring the news so as not to alarm the public with how helpless the populace is against these criminals isn't good either. At least here in the states, the press would be similarly inclined to censor crime footage, unless they had some footage from al jazeera claiming US troops had done something bad then it'd be on 24/7. :cuss:
  12. Lonestar

    Lonestar Well-Known Member

    Most American cities, the Bar Owners have guns;

    Story from Baltimore

    Story From San Antonio

    And a Crack shot in Detriot

  13. daniel (australia)

    daniel (australia) Well-Known Member

    I'll grant you that it is very difficult lawfully to carry concealed here, but that has been the case for a very long time. What is starting to be recognised is that the more recent changes to firearms laws have had essentially no effect on crime rates, and that criminals have been singularly unhampered in obtaining guns.

    However, the article in question here is nothing more than a yellow-press beat-up, to make the incumbent State Government look "soft on crime" in the lead up to an election in March. This paper runs the same sort of campaign, with boring predictability, every election.

    In fact if you read the editorial for today the nonsense of it all is quite palpable:

    (emphasis added)

    In other words, crime isn't actually up at all, in fact armed robbery is quite rare really, but we at the Telegraph are going to whip up a frenzy regardless of those pesky facts:rolleyes:
  14. Thin Black Line

    Thin Black Line Well-Known Member

    So is Australia getting to the point where some guy will be speeding down
    the road yelling "nightrider!" while being chased by cars marked MFP?

  15. Dr. Dickie

    Dr. Dickie Well-Known Member

    Actually, that is not surprising when you consider this:

    Gun crime? What gun crime?
    So, seeing the criminal committing the crime might prejudice the jury. What then will the jury be basing their opinion on?
  16. doubleg

    doubleg Well-Known Member

    Aww come on everyone knows ausies don't need guns.


    But really all the people I have known from there are great kind people.
  17. Lonestar

    Lonestar Well-Known Member

    Join the club, some US cities passed laws to increased the difficulity for normal citizens to purchase and carry a handgun, while crime still increases and criminals have no problems becoming armed.

    The editing of the tapes might have a lot to do with tourism. I would assume Sydney was a nice safe city to stay at while visiting Australia, but if I was about ready to book a trip and seen news reports showing video tapes of violent attacks and robbery all around Sydney, me and a lot of other foriegn tourist might decide to go elsewhere.

    Unfortunately the only way these gangs can be stopped is if they are brutally gunned down. If they are caught and arrested, then other copy cat gangs will take there place. If they were killed by a bar owner however, then others will realize that robbing bars is risky business.
  18. Thin Black Line

    Thin Black Line Well-Known Member

    New Orleans has some hotel vacancies.....
  19. IfYouOnlyKnew

    IfYouOnlyKnew Well-Known Member

    Not to get geographically off topic, but hotels in New Orleans are currently 95% full for the weekend heading into Mardi Gras. Oh, yeah, nine people were shot last night in two incidents in the Big Easy. www.NOLA.com Six in a bar shooting (one dead), three in a car (two dead). Neither in a tourist area but I'd take Sydney's crime rate any day compared to the city of my birth. :(
  20. wdlsguy

    wdlsguy Well-Known Member

    I guess they need to adopt the "American institution" of keeping a shotgun behind the bar. :evil:

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