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A Gun Show " Trick "

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Sigdude, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. Sigdude

    Sigdude Well-Known Member

    Last year i was at gun show up here in Maryland.
    And a gun show vendor and his " accomplance " tried to pull a real smooth one on me.
    It's really kind of humerous,and i'm not in the least mad,because it is comical.:D

    I came up to the desk of the table where the vendor had an assortment of old assult rifle models.One of them was the Spanish CETME ,which all of you already know,is the predecessor of the H&K 91.
    I picked-up the old piece-of-crap and cycled the bolt and held it up to sight it,but did NOT dry fire it.This is TABOO to do to most guns.
    So....i'm holding it still and i'm noticeing its wooden stocks and whatnot.
    Then out of nowhere this big burly guy comes running-up and says to the vendor " I've decided to add that CETME to my collection ! ".
    So the vendor whips-out the paper-work and the dude starts to fill them out.
    After about 10 seconds i lay the rifle back on the table.
    Then the guy who is filling out the paper says,without even looking at me,
    " You know...if YOU really want that rifle more than me i'll let you have it. I have a couple already."
    I said " Thanks but i'm looking for something newer .":rolleyes:

    I didn't stick around to see if the guys were scamming other folks who woud pick-up the rifle.:uhoh:

    It was a pretty slick operation.I guess the vendor expected me to say " Hey ! i've got the gun in my hands ! I have first debs on it ! ":mad:
    But this " Homie Don't Play Dat' ".:p
    I saw through this Bull S:cuss: t scam in a New York second ! ;)

    Just thought i would share this experience with you !:)
  2. boredelmo

    boredelmo member

    Iuno how much of a scam that seems like, but i dont really know if vendors are dumb enough to think that would work.
  3. torpid

    torpid Well-Known Member

    Ha ha!

    To summarize:

  4. Hoppy590

    Hoppy590 Well-Known Member

    iv seen similar done in shops. its always one of the regulars

    "wow, thats almost 1/2 of what i paid for one here just two weeks ago! timbob/hank/paul you trying to go out of business?!" * always folllowed by a REAL obvious wink
  5. bensdad

    bensdad Well-Known Member

    I love the beginning of the movie "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels." The one guy is displaying his "wares," and the other guy goes, "That's a bargain! I'll take one!" Then everybody starts buying like crazy. :D
  6. Sigdude

    Sigdude Well-Known Member

    Another time

    i was in a gun store looking for a .45 auto..
    The salesman pulled out an old COLT 1911 and tried to get me " Excited " because it was manufactured by the Colt company which made it a "collectors item " !
    It was only $850.00,and used to-boot.
    A guy behind happened to murmmer,actually thinking-out-loud to himself, "damn ! you could buy a Kimber for that much ! "
    The salesman gave the guy a quick look of disgust and gave out an audible sigh with his breath.
    The salesman didn't lose the sale with me because of the stranger's remark.
    I held-out for a Sig P220 st pistol which i eventually bought at another store.
    They all have so-called " bait-and-switch tactics " that they use also.
    But i wasn't born yesterday,and i see them comeing a mile away. :p
  7. heypete

    heypete Well-Known Member

    I was under the impression that dealers had to maintain 4473s, even if they weren't completed...I could be wrong, but if so, that would probably not be a bad thing for the dealer.
  8. .cheese.

    .cheese. Well-Known Member

    Not gun show related - but at the annual ham radio convention, I usually have a dealer booth with my father and some family friends who are all hams.

    When people aren't really looking at our booth, I'll sometimes take off my name-tag, and walk around the aisle, then start "perusing" what's at my/our booth... just looking....

    somehow it works... people will see somebody looking at stuff and figure there must be something interesting to look at.... once a few people are there, I'll just walk off and get a soda and then come back and ask what happened after I left.

    It's not really a scam.... it's just getting people to at least look at what the booth has.

    There is some psychological effect where if people see an empty booth, they assume there's either A) Nothing there... or B) They aren't possibly missing out on anything yet. By generating the interest for people to take a look (I don't say anything to them).... it often times will result in a sale or two.
  9. 230RN

    230RN Marines on Mt. Curibacci

    Same principle involved with having a few store's employees park in front of the building. Joint looks deserted and closed if there are no cars parked out front.

    And did you ever notice that "tip jars" are never empty? They put a couple of bills in there to "salt" it.

    Ah, the power of suggestion.
  10. Sage of Seattle

    Sage of Seattle Well-Known Member

    The power of what?! THE POWER OF WHAT!???

    OOhhh, the anticipation is killing me! :p
  11. Machete

    Machete Well-Known Member

    of suggestion (it's got camo)
  12. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    I've done the tip jar thing, and it has never failed :neener:
  13. Outlaws

    Outlaws Well-Known Member

    I have had that happen...twice at the same table. I picked up a 1903 off the rack and the clerk goes, I think this gentleman is going to get that." Then he asks me to hand it over. I think nothing of it and just walk away without saying anything. About a half hour later or so I am making my second round and I pickup a restocked Krag. A different counter guy says, "I have someone going to get some cash for that thing. You want it?" I just said, "no thank you." Because I didn't want to buy it.
    Then a few seconds later while I am looking at other stuff at the same table, the guy who supposedly wanted that 1903 was back at the table and original salesman who told me the 1903 was sold (he hasn't seen me) is telling some other kid that this same guy already has dibs on it but he is welcome to make a better offer.
    At this point things upstairs clicked.
    I walked right over to the end of the table and told the kid, "You are getting hustled buy these chumps. That old bag of bones ain't buying j@ck$h!t."
    I know I wasn't wrong because as I was walking away he started in on the kid with how I was upset he wouldn't sell for the price I wanted. I still get mad just thinking about it.
  14. Sun195

    Sun195 Well-Known Member

    When we sold our house, we actually attended the open house to see who was looking at it. The agent running the open house wasn't the listing agent, and nobody else there knew who we were, so we were just another "interested couple looking at the house". We saw the couple who eventually bought our house and I can't help but wonder if being there made them feel like someone else was going to bid on the house. This was at the height of the housing frenzy two years ago, so people were worked-up about the competition.
  15. Rembrandt

    Rembrandt Well-Known Member

    I hate it when dealers use a big bowl of candy as table bait.....they get me every time!
  16. Hoppy590

    Hoppy590 Well-Known Member

    know waht gets me. the big bucket of junk. il always walk up and dig through it hoping to find something. an old mosin bolt, shotgun parts, bayonets what ever. everytime. big buckets of junk lure me in
  17. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    next time spend most of the day at the other end of the show and before you leave just for chits and giggles wonder back over to the same table and (hoping they don't recognize you) see if it happens agian lol
  18. Big Calhoun

    Big Calhoun Well-Known Member

    Shilling and Baiting

    What the OP seemed to describe was more like 'Baiting', planting a false idea in hopes of provoking an impulse buy. When a 3rd party is involved, it's Shilling; using a 3rd party to create excitement or enthuisiasm, again with the hopes of provoking an impulse buy and/or inflating the price. AFAIK, those are both the legal terms for those tatics and you may want to look at your local laws to see if any thing exists that prevents it or makes it illegal.
  19. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311 member

    I have a friend that Super Glues a Silver dollar on the floor in front of his table. :evil:
  20. kennyboy

    kennyboy Well-Known Member

    Are you sure it was a scam? I mean, it sounds like one, but did you think that perhaps the guy was actually buying the rifle?

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