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A Little Help With Wheel Gun Choices...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Bayou Redd, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. Bayou Redd

    Bayou Redd New Member

    Aug 11, 2011
    Gulf Coast
    Please be patient while I set this up...

    1. First of all, I am not a total rookie, but I do respect others opinions & why they have them...

    2. This is for my daughter, but I would never buy a gun & say this is yours so love it...

    3. My time with her is on a limited basis as she is away in school but I think she needs home defense & a traveling companion which she agreed to my terms...

    On a recent visit, we took a trip to the range. She is a cute little petite 5'6" firecracker, but very athletic. (no you can't meet her & her dad is always packin' you pervs)
    We went through my auto .380's and got a definite NO. First time shooter didn't like the auto jirations (understandable) She shot my Wife's Taurus Model 82 .38 sp (copy of a Smith Model 10) She did well, but also got to shoot a range member's Rossi J-frame...

    Her comments: I love the way that the medium frame 82 shoots, but even though the J-frame kicked more, I felt like the small frame was easier to manage (both were .38 sp shooting standard pressure) We went inside and handled the Ruger LCR & the Smith Bodyguard. She loved them both, but has not shot them...

    Here's the dilema...

    She had such fun shooting, that I do not want to put such a lightweight revolver in her hands & take the fun out of practice. I have no doubt that she could handle even a 357 if she needed to, but I want her to want to go to the range and practice. I can't help but believe that the lightweight will sour her.

    I am not going to buy one & say here ya go. What I need from you folks, are choices to chase & try to get shooting time with...

    My Idea is J-frame in the 22 ounce arena with Hogues or the like...

    Whadaya Think... All opinions & why, are welcomed...
  2. tubeshooter

    tubeshooter Participating Member

    Aug 15, 2006
    Sounds like an all-steel .38 snub is the way to go.

    My first gun is a blued Taurus 85. No problems in about 20 years now (granted I don't shoot the snot out of it). 21 ounces empty, no problems with recoil.

    Taurus can be a bit of a dice roll, but I got a good one. On the other hand, I have a Smith at the shop right now. Nothing is guaranteed, no matter what you might read on gun boards.

    I put on a Hogue Monogrip on the 85, which helped (they came with wood back then).
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2011
  3. klutchless

    klutchless Member

    Feb 21, 2011
    London , Ohio
    EAA windicater 38 sounds the way to go all steel comfy grips.See if you can find one for her to shoot.No recoil no flip points and prints inside the 9 ring at 20 yards. the trigger might be a little much shooting double action though.Just my suggestion.
  4. Kendal Black

    Kendal Black Participating Member

    Mar 18, 2011
    I agree, an all steel .38 snub is probably the answer here. It's too bad Colt quit making the Detective Special, and drove up the prices for used ones, for that was a pretty good gun for the person who wanted a snub that didn't bounce up and down a lot when shot.

    Another thing that might be worth a look is a round butt K frame. It feels smaller in the hand. They've been made in 2, 3 and 4 inch versions.

    I like Pachmayr rubber grips and recommend them: The kind that covers the backstrap sound like the right ones in this case.
  5. bergmen

    bergmen Member.

    Feb 14, 2011
    Ukiah, California
    I think you are approaching this very smartly. My first .38 Special was an S&W model 15 with a four inch barrel. Adjustable sights, easy shooting, very accurate, major fun, good enough (actually very good) as a defensive gun although a little heavy.

    I just absolutely love mine and I just smile when I pull it from the safe to go have some fun. I have many wheel guns of all calibers from .22 to .454 Casull and this Model 15 is one of my favorites. All my kids (young adults now) love to shoot it as well.

    Just a thought.

  6. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 8, 2008
    Southern Virginia
    Wife and daughter have old charter arms, and smith snubbies in 38

    Other daughter liked Ruger SP101 and 3 inch security six
  7. jollyroger

    jollyroger New Member

    Feb 17, 2010
    J-frames just fit some people well: especially people with small hands. My suggestion would be to look for a S&W 36 or 60 with a 3-inch barrel. Old or new, the 3-inch barrel makes a huge difference in taming the recoil: S&W made a 3-inch 60 in their LadySmith line that was awesome: tapered 3- inch barrel in .38 special only. I think they currently make the model 60 with a 3- inch heavy barrel and adjustable sights that will take .357 mag. Any of these would give your daughter the frame she likes with minimal recoil for the j-frame.
  8. wlewisiii

    wlewisiii Participating Member

    Jan 1, 2010
    Hayward, WI
    S&W 60, 3" barrel. Load it with regular .38 and go to town.
  9. Jeb21

    Jeb21 Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    +1 on the 3" Smith model 60.
  10. David E

    David E Mentor

    Aug 3, 2008
    Dang, no one mentioned selecting the right load???

    If an all steel .38 won't be too heavy, then fine. But the LCR with those superlative grips loaded with standard .38's or even the 148 grain wadcutter target load will not sour her on the gun if she already likes it.
  11. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    Dec 27, 2002
    northern california
    I have to agree that the gripframe of the Ruger LCR makes a huge difference in controlability and comfort.

    A very controllable and effective loading is the Speer 135gr +P+ JHP specifically designed to expand in a short barreled snubbie
  12. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Elder

    Aug 11, 2005
    Elbert County, CO
    Is she gonna carry it, or leave it at home? If she does carry, purse, or on her body? Because if she's not trying to conceal it under clothing, I think a K-frame would be perfect. 13/19/65/66.
  13. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Mentor

    Jan 8, 2011
    3" SP101 gets my vote.
  14. oldfool

    oldfool Senior Member

    Jul 18, 2009
    Thomasville, Georgia
    agree with the choices so far named, in all steel versions only (not airweights)

    Taurus 85 series, S&W 60, Ruger SP101
    only liteweight I would have her look at is the LCR

    Do have her look at both 2" and 3" models, the 3" is typically more "shootable" for most folks
    I would not do a DAO unless she has the opportunity to actually shoot it first. IMO most have less friendly DA triggers than the DA models.. the LCR might be an exception

    "Her comments: I love the way that the medium frame 82 shoots"

    no surprise that, k-frames are well loved for good reasons
    see MachIV's list above, excellent
    but a S&W heavy barrel 4" model 10 would be my suggestion
    (OP did appear to hint at "in vehicle/at home" moreso than "on me")

    practice mainly w/ 38s, load 38+P for serious
    357s out of less than 5"-6" barrels are best left to "my next gun", not "my 1st gun"
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2011
  15. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Mentor

    Jan 8, 2011
    You could always get her some bling like this:

  16. valnar

    valnar Participating Member

    Apr 9, 2003
    Smith 64/67 is another choice.
  17. BRE346

    BRE346 Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    South Texas
    I'm with the Smith Model 60 in 3 inch barrel or a Ruger SP101.
    Like Oldfool, everything in steel.
  18. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

    May 22, 2003
    Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts
    Yep. Just the type that attracts unwanted attention. I've got one of those myself, so I know about the sleepless nights.

    Sounds to me like the Smith Model 60 is just the ticket. If it were me, I'd shop around for an older, pre-lock/MIM model...but that's just me. The M60/36 is a lot like the Model 10. Smith made a blue million of'em, and most weren't shot hard and heavy. I recently picked up an early production M60 that probably hadn't seen more than 150 rounds, and the price was more than reasonable.
  19. moxie

    moxie Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Erath Co., TX
    If she's going to be carrying, it needs to be light. I like the LCR. Light, small, and has a better grip, better trigger and better sights than the S&Ws. But, if she has to have the weight in order to shoot comfortably, then look at the S&W 60 and the Ruger SP-101, as others have mentioned. Shoot standard pressure .38s out of any of them.
  20. Paladin38-40

    Paladin38-40 Member

    Dec 26, 2010
    Florida's Great Northwest
    Any one gun is going to be a compromise. The 3" S&W 60 with cushy Pachmayr or Hogue grips would fit your/her niche well. It is small and light enough to carry well - large and heavy enough to shoot well. Start with standard pressure loads and gently ease upward to determine her tolerance level.

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