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A seaxy new blade!

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Sam1911, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    A little something John and I have been working on:


    The "Shivver!"

    This one is the modestly sized version, the "Temperate Shivver."


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  2. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator


    0.11" CPM 3V semi-full-flat grind -- hardened to Rc 59.8 by Bos

    1-1/8" wide at the hilt.

    Blade: 5"
    OAL: 9-1/4"

    Handles are Jade G10 with brick red liners and stainless pin and lanyard tube.
    Finish is Deep Flat Black Gun Kote.

    This is currently the sharpest knife I've made.

    And, as a teaser, this is the "baby" one!
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  3. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator


    I am current working on some thing similar, but with a sabre point.

    Yours are so much nicer, :(
  4. Gordon

    Gordon Well-Known Member

    I don't like that direction at all , in form or materials ! I think you are a wonderful builder BTW. Oh well to each there own.
  5. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    :) That's cool -- it wouldn't be my style for a lot of purposes, either. But an interesting variation with both historical precidents and a certan modern appeal as well.

    Curious as to the materials issue. 3V is some amazing stuff.
  6. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Sort of a seaxy kiadashi.

    Where's the balance point?

    Let's see the shoulders of the bevels to see if you Quasimodoed it. :evil:
  7. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Gordon, you can blame me.

    Looks great, Sam. Maybe when you have a chance you can show it in the hand- that would be a good point to show the balance, too.
  8. Gordon

    Gordon Well-Known Member

    And from the best spine treatment in the world designer of the Camp Defender :rolleyes:
  9. Valkman

    Valkman Well-Known Member

    Nice work Sam! Almost looks like a kitchen knife to me. :)
  10. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Ah, now, Gordon. There are more knives coming down the pike that'll be more to your liking. :D
  11. TimboKhan

    TimboKhan Moderator

    I like it!
  12. Rexster

    Rexster Well-Known Member

    I like it, too!
  13. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Balance point on this one is back at the choil. The material is thin and doesn't weigh much. The G10 scales and the pins probably equal the weight of the whole blade, so I can only do so much with balance. The tang is slightly skeletonized, but I'm leery of going too extreme with that because I've seen a few nice blades broken through the tang when drilled out too much.

    There's another waiting to be finished which will present the opposite problem. So much blade that it will balance pretty far forward. Just have to wait and see that one! ;)
  14. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    I'll try to get some close-up pics ... though I'm not quite sure what that means. :)
  15. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Bet it has something to do with a hunchback...
  16. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Ok, so I tried to get some close ups. My camera skills apparently do not extend to that. :eek:

    Best I can do are these:




    Does this give you any more info about whether or not I worked in a hunchback? (I'm just not familiar with that skill, design, or term.)

    The grind is flat, parallel to the edge. Meaning that the top of the grind dies right at the break of the spine, where it angles down to the tip. There is a full-thickness spine of blade above that line which forms a long, narrow triangle as the blade widens back toward the hilt. But that flat finish makes it really hard to see, even with the naked eye.

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  17. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Awww, shucks! :) I'm blushing!

    One of the cool things about making blades, I'm finding, is that I can try out all kinds of different stuff just to see if I like it -- or to please someone else's tastes.

    This blade would make an awfully nice kitchen knife as Don said. You could slice a mountain of veggies! :) Or, if you've a need to do anything stabby, it would probably work very well for that, too.

    It would not probably be a legendary success as a camp knife, or chopper.

    To that end, as John said, there's some radically different stuff in the pipeline, probably much more to your tastes. :)
  18. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    If you taper the tang or drill the tang under the scales you can move the balance point up a little bit, but many people will like the balance on the index finger.
  19. Bikewer

    Bikewer Well-Known Member

    I gather that the original Seax design apparently came in many sizes; from utility knife to sword. Practical and easy to make, compared to more modern blades.
    Like other such blades around the world, an all-purpose tool/weapon, equally adept at chopping wood or limbs.
  20. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    "hunchback"- the shoulders where the grind starts at the tang are not even, with one shoulder being offset in any direction from the opposite start of the grind.

    My favorite term for "the grinds aren't even at the ricasso".

    Perfectly matched bevels/grinds/plunges/ricassos are a favorite measure of mine of the skill of a maker because they're so difficult to pull off without mounting in a fixture.

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