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A (very) small victory for NY

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jamesbeat, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. steelerdude99

    steelerdude99 Well-Known Member

    They put this whole bill together in about a month without properly thinking it through. Now they are wondering why there are troubles. Go figure.
  2. bigdipper

    bigdipper Well-Known Member

    This is absurd and proof that the fight really isn't about guns its about control. How are you suppose to stop people from loading 10 rounds in a 10 round mag?? its such an easy law to break what is there to stop a criminal from doing it before they go and commit a crime? The whole thing is infuriating.
  3. tyeo098

    tyeo098 Well-Known Member


    He wants to bring the law back to the chopping block so he can add the LEO exception!!
  4. Eyesac

    Eyesac Well-Known Member

    Ha! hahaha! Wow, that really... wow. I can just imagine the next mentally ill mass shooter only loading up 7rds each into 10rd magazines.
  5. toivo

    toivo Well-Known Member

    Bingo. His lawyers told him that the courts would recognize a de facto ban when they saw one.
  6. toivo

    toivo Well-Known Member

    Right. And he would have already sold his pre-ban hi-caps out-of-state so as to be in compliance ... :rolleyes:
  7. jerkface11

    jerkface11 Well-Known Member

    A New York court threw out a law banning high capacity drinks. Not a big jump to applying that ruling here.
  8. HKGuns

    HKGuns Well-Known Member

    There you have the real truth. You ought to walk down to the Capital building, tar and feather his @SS and run him, Bloomberg and all of their supporters out of the State on a rail.

    It ought to be led by the State Police, with backup from the Sheriff's departments of every County to pass a resolution against it, because it only puts their good pensions further at risk and for what? - Absolutely nothing but air time for these buffoons. They should have their lights on and provide an escort for all of the good citizens involved in the act of freedom and rebellion.

    How many millions do you think this garbage is going to cost the citizens of NY to defend and how much of the rest of the Country to fight?

    It is beyond any reasonable comprehension that Mayor Sodapop can even get air time on any serious news program and the people who elected him should hang their heads in absolute, utter shame.

    Colorado should do the exact same with the bunch of idiots they now have running the show in their State.
  9. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member

    You can load 10 rounds at at an authorized shooting range, or at an NRA sanctioned competition, but limited to 7 in your own home with a licensed handgun. Absurd.
  10. toivo

    toivo Well-Known Member

    Folks, this is about to get more interesting. I've just been reading the lawsuit that NYSRPA filed today. They point out that the law says you can't load more than seven rounds in a magazine that has a capacity of "more than seven but less than ten." And of course, you can't have a magazine with a capacity of more than ten.

    The lawsuit points out, rightfully, that this means you can load more than seven rounds in a magazine that has a capacity of exactly ten. So if you have an eight or nine-round magazine, you can only load seven, but if you have a ten-round magazine, you can load ten. Oops ...

    They should have said "a capacity of more than seven but less than eleven" or "a capacity of more than seven but not more than ten." As written, the law totally exempts ten-round magazines from the seven-round-load limitation. Oh no, they didn't rush this bill at all ... :rolleyes:
  11. HKGuns

    HKGuns Well-Known Member

    I got so ticked off about NY I wrote COMA a scathing email.

    I told him I was glad he showed his true colors, because he'd never hold another public office again in his life and that I normally write respectful letters to Politicians but my respect is earned and he's proven he deserves none.
  12. SleazyRider

    SleazyRider Well-Known Member

    That is a great point! But I'm not really concerned with breaking the law loading more than seven; I'm concerned with availability of the guns. Nobody will ship a gun that holds more than seven to the Empire State. But, yes, that's just another indicator of what a hastily and ill-conceived piece of legislation it is.
  13. steelerdude99

    steelerdude99 Well-Known Member

    I’m trying to figure this out: IF a NY’er has a 24oz. cup only filled with soda to 16oz. that’s still legal. BUT someone who has a 32oz. or even the 48oz. BIG GULP, they will be arrested for a large capacity sugar feeding device? What if they go back for a refill or just buy two sodas? What about a straw purchase where I bring a friend and he buys a soda for me? Will I need a background check for that soda? { sorry for my slightly off-topic rant :) }

    Back to guns and magazines, the part that bugs me about NY’s “SAFE ACT” is the concept that an item bought legally is now illegal and must be turned in. Even the NFA of 1934, did not outlaw then require surrendering or selling the items out of jurisdiction. The selling outside of NY is a contradiction as NY blames neighboring states for its “illegal gun problem”.

  14. Tom from WNY

    Tom from WNY Well-Known Member

    And it gets more interesting....

    Despite the new illogic that makes my head hurt, I can buy/own a 10 round magazine but I can only load 7 unless at an incorporated range, ***????!!! Yet, a new wrinkle is appearing.

    Dictator Skelos, the RINO in charge of the NY Senate Republicans is reportedly against any exemptions from the SAFE Act for the entertainment industry. Now, I have commented on that here and to my elected representatives quite clearly; NO EXEMPTION FOR ENTERTAINMENT TO PRODUCE GRATUITOUS VIOLENCE.

    I only can ponder if he will use his reluctance to agree as leverage? Make any bets?

    Look at the maps on SCOPENY. Predictors of things to come.
  15. PabloJ

    PabloJ Well-Known Member

    Load 7 into 10 rounder? What is next for them? It's ok for them to have pot as long it's not smoked/distributed and used as room freshener only?
  16. WoodchuckAssassin

    WoodchuckAssassin Well-Known Member

    HA! I can't wait to talk to my dad about this one. The poor guy still lives in NY, and almost exclusively owns Ruger Mark 1's (10 round mags).

    Score one...or rather 1/2...for Team Common Sense!
  17. c4v3man

    c4v3man Well-Known Member

    Now if only they'll start offering those human hunting licenses that Diane Feinstein keeps talking about...

    I agree, they're trying to go in and fix what's wrong with the bill, the lack of a police (and private security firm) exemption.
  18. BryanDavis

    BryanDavis Well-Known Member

    I was just thinking that.

    The judge in the Big Gulp Ban case used the phrase "arbitrary and capricious" and that strongly applies to any magazine capacity limits.

    For example: Why 10? Why 7? Why not zero? Why not 2? The number was effectively pulled out of thin air. There's no telling what number will be next. Five? Three?

    That and it wouldn't have made much difference in the first place, in all the cases of these mass shootings from Adam Lanza to Gabby Giffords, the shooter had to reload at some point, and there either was some hero waiting to tackle the guy or there wasn't.

    Character made the difference, not the tool involved.
  19. Ohio Gun Guy

    Ohio Gun Guy Well-Known Member

    start the kettle and get some feathers......:fire:
  20. rondaxe

    rondaxe Member

    Voting Andy out of office isn't going to happen, and don't think for one second showing his true colors on the gun issue is political suicide for him either. We who live in upstate NY are at the mercy of the MAJORITY from downstate. They just love a New York city slicker who they think is going to protect them.

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