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You've tested them in a properly mounted (ie lag bolted to a concrete piller) Ransom Rest?
Accuracy: Revolver vs Semi-Auto
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You've tested them in a properly mounted (ie lag bolted to a concrete piller) Ransom Rest?
SharpsDressedMan
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You guys are right. Here is my Ruger Security Six (about $450 in almost new condition) at 25 yards with magnum loads. I have some autos that will shoot as well, but they were about double the cost. For accuracy and economy, the revolver is hard to beat (in the right gun).
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918v knows where of he speaks:
I hate to embarass the gun, but, I'm getting old,,,...
that's 10 shots, at 25 yards, off the bench, not a rest.
I had Jack Huntington tune the trigger, around 1.5 pounds, and, out of a rest,
it shoots .25", at 50 yards, for it's new owner. For the record, one chamber was too tight, and, might require pounding the empty out, with the rod...
Also, many rounds would have to be tapped into that number 5 chamber.
Pain for a fun gun for me.
I hate to embarass the gun, but, I'm getting old,,,...
that's 10 shots, at 25 yards, off the bench, not a rest.
I had Jack Huntington tune the trigger, around 1.5 pounds, and, out of a rest,
it shoots .25", at 50 yards, for it's new owner. For the record, one chamber was too tight, and, might require pounding the empty out, with the rod...
Also, many rounds would have to be tapped into that number 5 chamber.
Pain for a fun gun for me.
RugerMcMarlin
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What your guns do off a ransom rest is impressive,but I'm the lazy sort before long I'm gonna get tired of lugging it around and just start carrying my gun by itself.
I think it's a fair assessment (did I spell that correctly?) that a good revolver will shoot as well as a tight automatic. And that's the key, good revolver with resonable throat / bore dimensions and alignment, and an automatic that locks up tightly. All of which are very commonplace in today's modern guns, from Glocks to S&W's.
On the other hand, if they are loosy goosy, chances are that the gun won't be accurate.
My Hi-Power and repro Luger both shoot 1" to 1 1/2" groups at 25 yards as do my Security-Sixes, and Blackhawks. I have a Smith 25-5 in 45 Colt that won't shoot worth a darn. It does better with unsized boolits at .454 or so, and I finally figured out why, the cylinder throats measure .457, and the bore is .452, no wonder it didn't like .451's.
I also have a Star B Super, that must have had a million rounds fired through it, I even had to weld up the barrel bushing OD it was so loose, the rifling's OK, but she's still pretty loose. I can get a 3" to 4" group out of her, but that's as good as I can get her to shoot presently.
Anyway, I think it all boils down to how well the machinery fits.
Here's a couple of examples from revolver vs auto (that's a hand fitted Smith M-52 vs a Ruger Security-Six. Both guns fire these sized groups consistently)
On the other hand, if they are loosy goosy, chances are that the gun won't be accurate.
My Hi-Power and repro Luger both shoot 1" to 1 1/2" groups at 25 yards as do my Security-Sixes, and Blackhawks. I have a Smith 25-5 in 45 Colt that won't shoot worth a darn. It does better with unsized boolits at .454 or so, and I finally figured out why, the cylinder throats measure .457, and the bore is .452, no wonder it didn't like .451's.
I also have a Star B Super, that must have had a million rounds fired through it, I even had to weld up the barrel bushing OD it was so loose, the rifling's OK, but she's still pretty loose. I can get a 3" to 4" group out of her, but that's as good as I can get her to shoot presently.
Anyway, I think it all boils down to how well the machinery fits.
Here's a couple of examples from revolver vs auto (that's a hand fitted Smith M-52 vs a Ruger Security-Six. Both guns fire these sized groups consistently)
CraigC
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I'd love to see a service auto that shoots 1" to 2" at 25yds.
zfk55
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How many semi-autos can do 230 yards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=qfbhg22WCWs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=qfbhg22WCWs
I'd be pretty concerned if mine wouldn't as the minimum I'd expect at 50 yards would be 4"... and much closer to 2" from a solid position.
I haven't shot every service auto on the market, but I know that the ones I normally use will hold inside 2" at 25 yards...Sig 226, Sig 220, Kahr CW9, Springfield EMP
Magnumite
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Pistol silhouette shooters typically use the most accurate gun since the sport format puts a premium on accuracy over rate of fire, capacity or speed. You'll see many revolvers in centerfire catagories and little, if any, autos. I've never seen anyone attempt to use a service grade or sportsman grade semi auto more than once. They aren't competitive in the accuracy nor sight qualities. Rimfire catagories you'll see both. Both are overshadowed by the single shots in open events.
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