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Advice on pistol lubricant?

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by spudspank, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. spudspank

    spudspank Member

    Could anyone advise me what brands of gun lubricant out there is good?

    I just got my first pistol (Steyr m9) and I want to keep it protected.

    Thanks ahead for your recommendations.
  2. Pistolsmith

    Pistolsmith Well-Known Member

    Everyone has a favorite system of lubrication/protection and it can be cussed and discussed ad infinitum.
    Basically, there are three choices: Oil, grease or dry lubricants and waxes.
    Oil is the usual choice, but it is very tricky to get a proper amount applied to moving parts; it needs to be a light enough coating so that it will not become carbon sludge after some firing. It will also migrate, due to gravity. It is the worst choice for protection, since it rubs off on everything it touches...clothing, hands, holster interior, etc. Oil is a lubricant, i.e., it is a substance that is designed to lubricate moving parts. If you choose oil, you can use a silicone rag to protect the pistol's exterior.
    Grease is a much better product for lubricating moving parts, in that it lasts longer than oil between moving parts and it is effective under greater pressure. If you choose grease, you can still use a silicone rag to protect the pistol's exterior.
    Dry lubricants, especially dry moly disulphide creates a very thin layer of lubricant between moving parts. In that it has a molecular affinity for steel, it will stay put longer than grease or oil and it will not combine with carbon from burned powder to become sludge. There are many different dry lubes to choose from.
    Bore cleaning should always be followed by a protective layer of grease or dry lube. Follow the lube with a dry patch. Keep the chamber area free of grease and oil residue, since if present, it will jack pressures up into a spike and its lubricity will prevent a cartridge case from clinging to the chamber walls, thus giving a piston thrust against the slide face upon firing and severely straining the mechanism.
    My favorite protection for the exterior of a pistol is silicone auto wax. It is a real chore to apply and rub out, but once applied it lasts for years under normal conditions and it really does prevent rust and corrosion. It will stay put until you remove it with a solvent.
    Just remember that moving parts ALWAYS require a lubricant. If you run parts together dry, they will begin to wear and loosen. Do not neglect the slide rails. The trigger and sear mechanism require something like a silicone or moly disulphide grease in minute quantities or a treatment of dry moly lube.
    Just follow up with whatever works best for you. There are varying weather patterns across the country, and if you are out in severe weather conditions, take particular care to accommodate your pistol to them. If you are out in a dust or sand storm, strip it down, clean every bit of foreign matter from every surface and re-lubricate.
    Clean your pistol at regular intervals if you don't fire it and immediately after firing it, lest you put it off and forget.
    Take care of your pistol and it will take care of you when you need it.
  3. mete

    mete Well-Known Member

    Any name brand gun oil will work fine. I also like to use, especially on the outside, RIG grease. The trick is to clean the gun often ( remove all dirt , powder residue etc ) and lightly oil. Those that do this often find there guns are more reliable and last longer.
  4. sm

    sm member


    Well said.

    Key points: have a schedule ,condusive to one's climate, and elements firearm subjected to.

    Formula 3 by Kleenbore and RIG Universal.
    Sometimes/have used Johnson's Paste Wax for Exterior.

    Oil from crankcase, or Trans fluid from a vehicle, been known to get a student/ fellow hunter back up and running...
  5. bountyhunter

    bountyhunter member

    Grease is best for high stress surfaces like barrel lugs, rails, sear faces, bushings, etc. The best greases areound are:

    Slide Glide
    Militec Grease
    Tetra Gun Grease
    Wilson Ultima Lube
  6. Pistolsmith about covered everything. The only thing I would add is not to over lube. A little goes a long way. I have seen too many firearms dripping with lube. Clean and lube often and your pistol will last a long time and funtion when you need it to.
    Enjoy your new pistol, John K
  7. Bottom Gun

    Bottom Gun Well-Known Member

    You can get a free sample of the latest high tech lube at:


    It's supposed to be the stuff the military now uses. I just received my sample but haven't had a chance to try it yet.
  8. SW9mm

    SW9mm Active Member

    i like hoppe's gun grease lightly with q - tip wear i see visible rail wear and rem oil everywhere else. i got my free sample of militec in the mail haven't used it yet though. the people at www.1911forum.com rave about a product called FP-10 but i have no personal experience with it
  9. ambidextrous1

    ambidextrous1 Well-Known Member

    The Ameriban fighting man has done very well with GI gun oil worldwide; it's always available at gun shows and elsewhere.

    Notwithstanding this, a lot of progress has been made in the so-called synthetic lubricantsin the past 30 years. I like to try new things, and used Mobil 1 on my pistols for about three years. About 6 months ago, I went back to gun oil, and have been using FP 10 since then. It was a dramatic improvement over Mobil 1, producing a much smoother feel to rge gun when cycled manually.

    I believe it's not what you use as much as whether you use anything. As others have noted in this thread, "dry is bad", and will result in excessive wear. When lubing long guns, greater care must be taken ib the selection and application of lubricants, because of the high pressures and stresses involved.
  10. WESHOOT2

    WESHOOT2 Well-Known Member


    Oil: BreakFree CLP

    Grease: TetraGrease

    Wax: ear :D (actually, for my blue guns' rust prevention I use S&W FrictionBlock; discontinued :fire: )
  11. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    FP10! Works great, smells good too!:)
  12. Badger Arms

    Badger Arms Well-Known Member

    Protectant? EEZOX. Hard to get but GREAT STUFF.
    Lube? EEZOX or Break-Free
    Cleaner? Break-Free or EEZOX
    Grease? Tetra-Gun Grease.
    Bore Cleaner? Tetra-Gun Bore cleaner or Hoppes #9 (Most pistols don't care much if you clean the bore extra good.
    Bore Conditioner? Tetra-Gun Oil.

    Yeah, I have them all but I use EEZOX mostly.
  13. LIProgun

    LIProgun Well-Known Member

    Another vote for BreakFree and Eezox. I use grease too in limited applications, but have no strong preference for brand. All of the gun greases tend to be adequate.
  14. Revolver Armorer

    Revolver Armorer Well-Known Member

    FP10 Lubricant Elite

    FP10 Lubricant Elite which is marketed by Shooters Choice and Muscle Products is the only way to go. Excellant rust prevention, better cleaning ability and stops rust from forming.
    Cannot get any better then these. :)
  15. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    I agree with Revolver Armorer without reservations.
  16. Revolver Armorer

    Revolver Armorer Well-Known Member


    Funny thing Blackhawk, a lot of folks don't seem to think a given firearms oil/lubricant should prevent rust. There are a few, so called "gun lubricants" that have such poor rust prevention, your guns can be rusting inspite of a generous coat. The trend has been towards "low friction co-efficients" and high Falex Load testing without actual regards to protecting metallic surfaces against rust and corrosion protection. I would say that more guns are destroyed by lack of rust prevention then any other factor alone. FP10 is the best of both worlds. Plus FP10 smells pleasant and works like a charm. A good consistant, strong film that keeps guns working. :cool:
  17. Revolver Armorer

    Revolver Armorer Well-Known Member

    FP10 - one more thing

    Oh, one more thing. FP10 will not destroy your plastic grips by etching. I have had at least one guns grips trashed by over aggessive carrier based solvents. FP10 is mild and it cleans very good.
  18. allamricn

    allamricn Member

    Tried many...now an FP-10 user on my Glock

    I will give my two cents on being a fairly new gun owner and my experiences with cleaning.

    I tried Tetra products first...brought the Degreaser, the LP, the grease and the oil. Did ok, but I had SO much to deal with.

    Next went to MPro7. Cleaned very well in my opinion, but I had to then coat EVERYthing with Breakfree because it removes all the oils in your gun (surfaces and all)

    Next wanted to try a CLP so I could use one product for everything (unless you have copper fouling, then use that too), and I tried Breakfree. It was ok, but it really was messy.

    Finally, I read on 1911 forum and The Firing Line about FP-10. I got a sample and was hooked.

    I think the best thing is that its "one stop shopping" for cleaning and lubing.

    Just my feeling, but I know from trying all the current trends.

    I got mine from MPC which makes the mil-spec version of FP-10 (unsure if Shooters Choice is mil-spec)


    Its really inexpensive and why not give it a try. I know I probably wasted more money on cleaning products, but its always trial and error.
  19. Revolver Armorer

    Revolver Armorer Well-Known Member

    FP-10 Muscle Products = Shooters Choice

    The forumula is identical, no matter which bottle you purchase. Muscle Products informs a Canadian Police Training Office with this information. The formula is identical and Shooters Choice cannot change the formula per contract with Muscle Products. Actually, the Shooters Choice bottle is much more easy to obtain and a better quality bottle IMHO. FP-10 reduces friction by an exchange of Cations. Friction is a mechanical reaction which causes small degradation of ions in the steel (something like that) according to MPC. FP-10 is a more advanced treatment that will keep guns in better working order, clean and free of rust. Cannot ask more then that. I will be using FP-10 for a long time to come. :cool:
  20. Revolver Armorer

    Revolver Armorer Well-Known Member

    one last thing

    One last thing....... MPC manufacters and then sells the Shooters Choice FP-10 in bulk. FP-10 is then bottled in the Shooters Choice labeled bottle. Again, per contract with MPC, the formula is absolutely identical and cannot be altered by Shooters Choice via the agreement with MPC. See MPC's web site and cold weather testing results conducted by Canadian authorities.
    The data mentions this and states absolutely the two formulas are exactly identical. :)

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