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Air Guns for Practice

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Kager, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Kager

    Kager New Member

    Apr 17, 2004
    I'm curious about the effectiveness of using an air pistol/rifle to supplement centerfire training?

    I realise that some types of air guns require a different technique/hold to achieve good results, does this interfere with your centerfire ability?

    I have heard some people comment that if you can shoot an air gun well, anything else is easy?

    Are pneumatics better than spring guns in this respect?
    Or am I simply better off spending the time dry firing/using squib loads?

  2. jobu07
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    jobu07 Participating Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Pike County, PA
    I think any trigger time you get is better than none. Even the crummiest of air guns will have sites for you to align while you squeeze the trigger. So at the very least, you'll have practice getting an accurate site picture.
  3. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Member

    Dec 28, 2002
    way south of cold ;-)
    Bought a BRNO air-pistol austensibly to increase practice time back when I was doing a lot of bullseye shooting. Setup a 10 meter range cornered across the garage complete with spotting scope and target light.

    I spent hours out there getting practice time I wouldn't have had if I had to go to the range. Shoot at midnight if ya want. Did see a marked improvement in my match scores because of a closer focus on the fundamentals and tighter concentration.

    Not as good as hot range time perhaps, but it is indeed a good supplemental aid - and great fun to boot. Go for it.
  4. JustsayMo

    JustsayMo Participating Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    the Evergreen State
    Shooting pellet guns has greatly improved my shooting. Air guns tend to be more hold sensitive and they require more discipline to shoot accurately. This pays big dividends when you make it to the range with your firearms.

    I've owned a few and I would HIGHLY recommend the Beeman P3 pistol. FANTASTIC trigger and VERY accurate. It's less than $150 new too last time I checked. It's probably the best shooting "accessory" I've ever purchased.

    I have a BSA Superstar rifle too. Excellent. Good trigger, easy to shoot but hold sensitive. Shooting "Field Target" with it is great fun with this air rifle and it's an excellent way to sharpen your skills.

    Of the half dozen airguns I've had, those are my favorites. If I could only have one the P3 would win out. It's handy, it's fun and it's inexpensive to shoot.
  5. Third_Rail

    Third_Rail Senior Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    Here and here are two places you can get the B3. D&R sports is the cheaper of the two.
  6. cslinger

    cslinger Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Nashville, TN

    Totally agree with the more trigger time the better post.

    One other bit of training that is nice is if you can get a gun that approximates one of your real guns, for example I have a C225 with is just about identical and even heavier than my SIG P225.

    Both the SIG and the airgun hold 8 shots and both will fit in the same holster. This is great for draw practice or shooting with a light technique practice etc.

    Besides all this "training" they are just plain fun. Training is a great excuse for SWMBO though. :D
  7. Bridger

    Bridger Active Member

    Mar 9, 2004
    NY, PA
    I've done a lot of dryfire training with a broken (non firing) airsoft, as well as a wally world pellet pistol (the crossman revolver), and have seen an improvement in my pistol shooting. I don't own any pistols yet, so I only get to shoot other people's here and there, but it's helped.
  8. SpookyPistolero

    SpookyPistolero Active Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Central Kentucky
    I definitely agree that its good to get all the time you can behind a rifle. I wore out two very nice and fun air rifles one summer at my dad's house. I put boxes and boxes of pellets through them. I would tie some tin cans up to a bird feeder and end up scooting farther and farther back to hit em. Eventually had to scoot back up from being down the driveway shooting past the house down the yard to the cans.
    Anyway, without the rambling, they're great, and one of the reasons why I can actually hit the broad side of a barn (well, most of the time...). Have fun!


    ps - sorry to not be able to offer brand name help, but the rifles I used were wal-mart specials if I recall...
  9. YodaVader

    YodaVader Active Member

    Dec 29, 2002
    I have heard some people comment that if you can shoot an air gun well, anything else is easy?

    One important fundamental the air gun teaches you is to really stay on target and follow through because of the very long "travel time" for the pellet to leave the barrel as compared to conventional firearms. I practice with my Beeman R7 at the indoor range and absolutely love it! It is rated at 700 fps so it is much slower than any 22lr. Plus the rifle is very accurate so I know that if I do my part the gun will deliver. One of the shooters at the range chuckled when I was shooting the quiet R7 until I showed him the target and then he looked something like this - :what:

    I've owned a few and I would HIGHLY recommend the Beeman P3 pistol. FANTASTIC trigger and VERY accurate.

    This is on my "to buy" list. I bought the Chinese copy at Wal Mart manufactured under the Marksman label. Gun started to malfunction in less than 20 rounds fired. Returned it! Will buy the German made P3. Will be fun to outshoot the 22lr/38/45 guys at the indoor range using a .177 air pistol!
  10. foghornl

    foghornl Mentor

    Dec 27, 2002
    When I can't get to the range, I practice in the basement with either my "Red Ryder", or my Crossman (Mdl 1706, maybe ? ? ? ) that looks like the Remington XP-100 pistol.
  11. Falcon501

    Falcon501 New Member

    Jan 7, 2005

    Here is a picture of my airgun..I picked it up at a sporting goods store for $20 and it is fun to shoot and very accurate. It is a good gun to practice with. Replica of a Taurus PT92. I used to have a Sig P226 Replica but dropped it too much and broke it lol. I kill spiders with this one :) [​IMG] It is not a good pic, i just now took it w/ camera phone.

    PMATULEW New Member

    May 7, 2003
    N.E. PA
    Air gun practice

    Most definately yes.

    Range time is range time. The muscle meory is the same regardless of the projectile.

    Find a weapon you're comfortable with and go for it. It's great in the winter when you can head to the garage or the basement for a half hour or an hour and spend some quality time without the baggage of a full fledged range trip.
  13. thorn726

    thorn726 Participating Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    berkeley, CA
    the one thing i have read (lemme see if i got the link)
    yeah ok one of the things i think this guy mentions somewhere is that doing comparisions with a real pistol, his groupings were pretty much the same, however rapid fire
    was not the same because of the difference in recoil.

    i need to get one of those airsofts so i can practice more, overall cheaper , use anywhere, and it's got to be good practice

    here's the link, lots of reviews and stuff
  14. greg700

    greg700 Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    A GOOD air pistol/rifle will help you develop better shooting skills. It will force you to slow down and use proper technique, without all the noise/recoil that tends to reinforce bad habits. If you flinch with an air gun, it is painfully obvious.
  15. saltydog452

    saltydog452 Participating Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    air power..

    At ten meters, the 'ten ring' is about the size of a pencil eraser. The 'x-Ring' is about the size of the pencil tip.

    If you can compete at that level, it would certainly seem to help to your slowfire scores if nothing else.

  16. Ironman

    Ironman Active Member

    Dec 6, 2003
    Palm Harbor, Florida
    A good bb gun pistol to help show saftey skills and sight pics to new shooters is the walther ppk blowback, while it only has a fps of 300 the slide recoils every shot and stays locked back after the last shot, its realistic and fun.
  17. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
  18. 444

    444 Mentor

    Dec 26, 2002
    Yes, a good airgun will do wonders for you shooting ability.
    And it is fun and allows you to be involved in your hobby every day.

    Many years ago, when I still lived at home with my parents, I bought a Daisy spring air pellet pistol. It was a pretty decent gun. I used to come home from school, head down to the basement where I would fire 20 shots strong hand only, 20 shots weak hand only and 20 shots both hands at a target taped to a stack of Time magazines located diagonally across the basement. I would then do a weight work-out and head upstairs for dinner. Made a very nice routine for a year or so.

    One problem I have is with my air rifle. I bought a Beeman R1 (years ago: 15 years ago ?) because it was the most powerful rifle they had at the time. Now I want to use it to practice position rifle shooting and it is too difficult to cock from a shooting position like prone. So, I have to stand up between each shot: which is a PITA. I wish I would have bought a more practical air rifle instead of making the decision on the childish notion of it being the most powerful.

    I also have one of those Baikal air pistols mentioned above and a Beeman P1 air pistol.
    I shoot into a bullet trap that is rated for .22s. I think it is made by Outers. I have actually fired .22s into it and it stops them with no problem. The trap is easy to move around etc. It is definitely the way to go IMO. Do not use one for shooting BBs.
  19. Sparks

    Sparks New Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    For some of us, airgun shooting isn't the practise, it's the real deal ;)



  20. ManChicken

    ManChicken New Member

    Dec 17, 2004
    Golden, CO
    Whats with the TRON outfits? (and I mean no disrespect, I'm just wondering) Is it a team thing or..?

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