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Another Leupold Failure

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by hometheaterman, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. hometheaterman

    hometheaterman Well-Known Member

    So I'm sure most of you know that I've not had good luck with Leupold products and honestly probably wouldn't buy them again. I've been told on here I must have gotten a lemon as the majority of them are good. Well, I only know two people other than myself who have Leupold scopes. One of them got one last year on a muzzle loader he bought used. The other I think purchased it new like me. As I've said in the past 2 of us have both had issues with the scope not holding zero. The other one sold his after he got it bck from Leupold before seeing if it was fixed. I remounted mine. Luckily this failure wasn't of my scope this time. The third friend that got his last year liked the scope last year but said he hadn't used it enough to give a valid opinion. I takked to him at the begenning of this year and he said he really liked it. This was a week ago from today. We shot our guns to make sure they were lined up and all was well. So today he decided to shoot a target and show us how well his gun shot. Not only was it no longer shooting in the right spot he completely nissed the target. Not knowing what was going on he shot it a few more times. Turns out his scope is now bad doing the exact same thing mine did as well as my buddies. It's adjusting itself and the poi is jumping around. I don't see how anyone can recoomend these scopes. A 3 for 3 failure rate is 100% failure rate. I find it highly unlikely that all 3 of us just happened to get a lemon if it's normally a good brand. They seem like overpriced crap to me. There customer servce is good but for that price I want a quality product that works not just good customer service. Even with cheap 30_40 dollar scopes not everyone I know has had problems.
  2. BigBlue

    BigBlue Member

    I have had three Leupold scopes for many years and did have one fail a few years ago. Actually while it is the oldest of the three, it's the one I'd least expect to fail, a M8-3X fixed power scope. Luckily they do have the best warranty and service in the business and it was returned to me in about a week. I was also lucky in that it failed at the range and not on a hunt.
  3. cameron.personal

    cameron.personal Well-Known Member

    I have 3 Leupold's and a friend has another 3. That's 6 in all between the two of us and we have never had a problem.

    So.... my sample doubles the size of yours and therefore using your logic must prove that Leupold scopes are 100% perfect.

    Last edited: Nov 6, 2009
  4. hometheaterman

    hometheaterman Well-Known Member

    Yea the bad thing about it for my buddy is we only have one more week of muzzleloader season. So it's no way he will have it back in time to hunt with. We only get two weeks of muzzle loading season. He doesn't get to hunt except on the weekends usually either so his time he gets to hunt is limited. I ended up letting him borrow my Remington Genesis to use this afternoon and in the morning. It's the first time I've ever loaned out a gun but I've been friends with him for a long time and wanted him to be able to get some hunting in too since I had great luck yesterday.
  5. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    It is possible to break any scope by improper mounting.

    Rings not in alignment, or over-torqued when tightening the screws can warp or pinch the scope tube and break things.

    Any chance of that?

  6. eastbank

    eastbank Well-Known Member

    i have owned and used just about every scope brand in the last 50 yds. and i have settled on leupold and burris(veri x 111 and us made burris) on all my rifles. if you talk to 100 owner of leupold or burris scopes, i think you will find most are pleased with them. the stars just aliened aganist you and your friends or you are menbers of the very small group of the leupold loses club. eastbank.
  7. hometheaterman

    hometheaterman Well-Known Member

    rcmodel I know that wasn't the issue with mine however I can't comment on either of the other two but I have my doubts as they haven't had problems with other scopes.

    As for the Burris I've only really heard of one person having an issue and the rest I've talked to love them. I have one that replaced my Leupold and I can say it's my favorite scope I've used. I've only had it a year but so far it's held up great and is super clear. Way clearer than the Leupold in the day and in low light situations. I've also used Simmons with great success. They have taken a beating and still hold zero. My Simmons is also 5 years old or so. However, they haven't been as clear as the Burris but they are clear enough. They probably would be my second favorites. My buddy that had tis Leupold fail is a Simmons fan as well. We along with a few others I hunt with have had the experience that they are just as good as Leupolds and a lot cheaper. They really don't compare to the Burris though.
  8. desidog

    desidog Well-Known Member

    Every big animal i've shot, and a lot of small ones too, I've been looking through Leupold glass. I think they are the best scopes out there....and I've wasted a fair amount of good money on other manufacturers' crap.

    Are you using Leupold or Weaver-type bases? If the former, rcmodel's speculation FTW?

    RSVP2RIP Well-Known Member

    Which Leupold line, just for curiosity? I have a Mk4, VXIII, VXII, a custom M8 from Premier Reticles and have never had one issue with any of them. I've also have/had several Burris scopes and never had any issues with them either. As far as clarity Leupold has it over Burris for equal price. The Leupold Mk4 is the issue optic on the M24 weapon for the US Army. If it was not durable, I doubt it would have been accepted, not that the Army always takes quality over cost, but I like to think they wouldn't cut too many corners there. My VXIII is a 1.5-5x20 and it is mounted on a Ruger MKII RSM 375 H&H and it hasn't shifted zero, even after detaching/reattaching it with the Warne rings. I've only had zero shifts with "bargin" scopes, and one texas Weaver K4.
  10. wyohome

    wyohome Well-Known Member

    I have 3 VX-II, 2 are 3-9 one is 6-18 and I have had zero problems with any of them. Are you sure they are 'Leupold' and not 'Leopoled' of some off brand from your local 'Relox' dealer?
  11. bpl

    bpl Well-Known Member

    Sounds to me like maybe the rings or bases are loose on your friends mount system. Or, like wyohome suggested, maybe you've got some "Leopold" Chinese forgeries mounted on your rifles. Me, I've got eight Leupold scopes and couldn't be happier with them. And if I ever do have a problem, I know It'll be taken care of by Leupold.
  12. DeepSouth

    DeepSouth Well-Known Member

    Leupold products have a lifetime warranty, so if I were you I would try complaining to the people who can actually do something about your problem.

    Form their site

    By the way I have had numerous Leupold scopes, one has fogged a little but it is 30-35 years old, the rest are fine and some of them are older than that one.
  13. Horsemany

    Horsemany Well-Known Member

    This is the warranty for "Green ring" foreign made binoculars/spotting scopes. The warranty on all their other products is much better. You do not need to be original owner with those products. You could buy a 30yr old Leupold at a garage sale and if it doesn't work send it in. They'll fix or replace it for free and treat you politely on the phone. And you can understand what they're saying on the phone.
  14. dakotasin

    dakotasin Well-Known Member

    sounds to me like the o.p. should probably just stay away from leupold... i would point out, however, that if 1 person has a 100% failure rate, and nobody else reports a rate even close to that, then perhaps it is the person and not the product. apparently he's a lot tougher on scopes than what leupold can build to.

    if i had repeated failures from any brand, pretty good bet i'd stop using that brand as well...
  15. cat_IT_guy

    cat_IT_guy Well-Known Member

    Ive been quite happy with my two - beauty of America is, if you dont like them, dont buy them.
  16. shootr

    shootr Well-Known Member

    I got on to Leupold in the 80s while living in Alaska. Saw a number of scope failures, but the guys with Leupold were always good. Own 5 Lupys now. They hold zero. The adjustments are repeatable. The customer service is the best in the biz I've experienced. Made in USA. What's not to like?
  17. hometheaterman

    hometheaterman Well-Known Member

    I was using Leupold bases and rings when I had both failures with my scope. Not sure why my friends are using for bases or rings.

    To be fair it's not that I've had this many failures with Leupolds it's that I've had a failure twice on the only scope I've had from them and the only two other people I personally know that have Leupolds have also had them fail and do the exact same thing.

    They were all VX-I scopes. While not their top of the line scope there is no reason at all a $225 scope should ever fail.

    I agree there customer service seems decent and they have taken care of me when mine has messed up and I'm sure they will for my buddy whose just broke. They did for my other buddy also. My scope from them currently works great. However, it's a pita to send a scope in for repair much less do it several times.

    As for the Burris not being as clear as Leupold for the money I totally disagree and if you look at the numbers of each scope to compare you will see the Burris is better. My Burris Fullfield II is quite a bit and I mean it's very obvious that it's quite a bit clearer both in broad day light as well as low light situations. My Leupold was $225 and my Burris was $199 with a free Garmin eTrex GPS.
  18. Uncle Mike

    Uncle Mike Well-Known Member

    Only certain models now...the majority of them are assembled in the U.S. of Japanese, Philippine and other foreign parts.
  19. joed

    joed Well-Known Member

    I've owned 5 Leupold scopes, and can't say anything bad about them. Two of them are 30 years old with no failure of any kind. I prefer Leupold to most other makes of scope.

    I have heard there are Chinese knockoffs out there. Send it in and see what happens.
  20. natman

    natman Well-Known Member

    I've had dozens of Leupolds over the years, most of them bought used, some of them well used. I know that they offer a lifetime warranty, but I've never had to use it because I've never had a single problem.

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