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AntiGun Family Or Friends

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by limbaughfan, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. limbaughfan

    limbaughfan Well-Known Member

    Discuss how to deal yall deal them,describe your experiences with them and how to combat their arguements.
  2. mrmeval

    mrmeval Well-Known Member

    I don't go to their homes if I can't carry or I won't carry there. I don't talk to them about guns. I only have a few aquaintances who are not gun friendly and it's not really come up. I usually don't befriend anti-gunners.
  3. LoneCoon

    LoneCoon Well-Known Member

    I invite them to go shooting. If they don't want to go, then I simply ignore them as not being willing to even try to see the other side of the issue.
  4. It's like religion or politics. It's just not worth the effort.
  5. Redneck with a 40

    Redneck with a 40 Well-Known Member

    Me and my brother got into a heated discussion, after I told him I was taking a handgun safety class, which is required to obtain a CCW in Colorado. My brother used the typical anti-gun, liberal tactics, argue solely based on emotion and feeling, and shout your opponent down, so facts cannot be presented. I got pissed and walked away from the whole thing, he thought he had won. However, I later wrote him a 10 page letter stating my views on gun control, with statistics and facts to back it up. I haven't heard from my brother since, but I know he cannot deny that I made many valid points and presented hard facts, that pretty much demolish his position. My brother is entitled to his view, as long as he does not cram it down my throat. If he can't accept my view, then that's his problem.
  6. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Well-Known Member

    I think you have to test the waters to see how firm they are in their views. If they are a fence sitter and you are friendly about it and invite them to go shoot you may have created a new shooter. If they are firm in their views all the facts in the world won't change their mind.
    Also, when debating with someone don't attack their point of view and say "you" a lot. It makes someone's defenses go up immediately and you are a LOT less likely to get them to actually listen to what you are trying to say. This goes for all debates about any subject with wives, husbands, co-workers, etc.
  7. 50caliber123

    50caliber123 Well-Known Member

    many of these arguements are unavoidable, even if you try not to bring up guns. I've dated women whose die-hard liberal families found out I shoot and tried to make my life hell because of it. I'm old enough to own what I do, I bought them all legally, there shouldn't be a problem. I've gotten the "NO Gunman is going to date my daughter!" and "How would you like it if I shot you" yelled in my face on several occasions. I try every time to talk calm and rationally, and parents or friends of women I've dated end up screaming at me. I always end up walking away.
  8. stevelyn

    stevelyn Well-Known Member

    I don't waste my time. You can't choose who is in your family, but you can choose not to associate with them. I've chosen not to associate with mine for about 20 years now.

    I can choose who my friends are and have chosen not to have anti friends either.

    Life is too short to put up with the aggravation.:barf:
  9. RandomAvenger

    RandomAvenger Member

    So often it is difficult to hold a rational, logical discussion with persons who refuse to accept an absolute value system. Their very beliefs are based on relativism (an oxymoron if there ever was one) and therefore they are not required to maintain any semblance of order in their arguements. Why do you think that they have varying opinions of things every other day? The same arguement that you use to back up your position will be twisted and distorted by them tomorrow in their attempt to "show you the light".

    I have found that the easiest way to get them to shut up (because there is no convincing them of the error of their ways) is to throw the intolerance arguement back at them. Call them hypocrates and tell them that they are the most intolerant person that you have ever met. When they stop for a second to ponder what you just said (remember that they preach about tolerance of everyone else's ways) walk away. This will leave them wanting more and hopefully willing to approach you later to reopen a diaglogue, but bear in mind that they will always believe you are wrong.

    Good luck. Hopefully you are secure enough in your beliefs and thoughts and have done enought to research to be able to back up your arguement. It is a long, uphill battle that you may never win. But I applaud you for trying.
  10. jeepmor

    jeepmor Well-Known Member

    I live in America

    And I owe my freedom today to guns, and all Americans do. Not the shenanigans of global oil and middle east hornets nest poking of today. The fact that when confiscation of guns came to the Colonies, America was born. We fought for this right and our freedom. Our forefathers wrote it into the very lifeblood of this country. It is my right to own a gun, please don't equate a right with crime, that's called projection and its not a credible argument.

    Also, I am one of the ~88 million gun owners of America, a population larger than all armies in the world put together. That keeps your government careful when considering firearms and liberties legislation when 1 in 3 people in America own a gun.

    If they don't get past that, I repeat, you are free because of guns, and guns are your insurance of that freedom whether you like it or not. Your insurance policy of freedom stands with 1 in every 3 people in America, think about that, look around fella, 1 in 3 of those people you see, own a gun. We don't have 88 millon gun crimes a year. Quit equating guns to crime, again, that's a weak standpoint for your argument.

  11. Molon Labe

    Molon Labe Well-Known Member

    99% of anti-gunners are fearful of guns because they know nothing about them. The best advice was given by LoneCoon.
  12. crazed_ss

    crazed_ss Well-Known Member

    I dont try to convince them of anything. If they dont like guns, it's their perogative.

    I will clear thing up with them though if they are misguided. For example, I explained to my mom that the CA assault weapons ban has nothing do to with fully auto rifles and machineguns. When I explained how the M1A is legal and the AR-15 isnt, her response was "That certaintly doesnt make any sense".. She still doesnt like guns, but she has a better understanding of why gun control laws dont work.
  13. witiku

    witiku Member

    Ever been packing while having one of these "Guns are the cause of evil..." comments lobbed at you? :)

    I just walk away saying something less ignorant to the real world. Not too argumentative. :rolleyes: Why get into it and be forever looked at as 'That Guy'

    What a way to rebut a flawed arguement. Actually secretly using the God given right your friend/family/stranger so easily argues as Useless!

  14. Radjxf

    Radjxf Well-Known Member

    Haven't seen one yet who has any valid points, just the above mentioned shouting and emotional hysterics. My mother-in-law is absolutely convinced that "guns just go off" by themselves even while in storage. I know I certainly keep all of mine chambered with the hammers back all of the time:rolleyes:
  15. Roadwild17

    Roadwild17 Well-Known Member

    Pinned +1

    My gf is an by-stander & whenever she gets into her anti-mood I just remind her "funny, after Kartnia you wanted a gun, it was kinda late then though." That usually shuts her up.
  16. doggscube

    doggscube Well-Known Member

    My sister made it clear that my new brother-in-law isn't allowed to go shooting with me. Her profession (social work) pretty much requires an anti-gun attitude.

    I should still ask occasionally. :evil:

  17. witiku

    witiku Member


    Oh the ---- I got untill Katrina came. :uhoh:

    This is a minor hoot WRT Katrina.

    One of my wifes' trusted friends, who Absolutely Never mentioned firearms, called post storm and asked; "Do you have any firearms in the house?"

    She was stunned, nearly fell out. He told her that he had it on good authority people may need to take care of themselves...

    He said "Get them out and keep them ready." I thought she would choke. when she told him "We are covered."

    [scowl]sound of crickets and that 'Don't say it" look in her eyes.[/scowl]

    The ---- started back up once the turmoil was less obvious. :(
  18. Evil Monkey

    Evil Monkey member

    I got no family members who are hard core anti gunners but they are afraid of them, again, mostly becuase they don't know facts about guns and why people carry guns.

    I used to get the "Why do you need guns?" question all the time but ever since I answered "for sport and collecting", I don't get asked that question any more.

    My dad was weary of guns but then he started to go to the gun shops with me and now he really doesn't mind them.:evil:

    What about mom? Well, mom will always be mom, caring for her young ones. She's not really anti gun but she just doesn't want me getting shot.
  19. limbaughfan

    limbaughfan Well-Known Member

    50caliber123 that was a very funny story.Ive never heard of an antis parents screaming stuff like that,but I could belive it.
  20. sterling180

    sterling180 Well-Known Member

    My,mother,father,various cousins,their wives and boyfriends,my grandmother-when she was alive-,my second-cousins,my girlfriend, a few of my aunts,some of my friends,even-yes even some of the people who I work with.My G.P.(state surgery/clinic doctor.) isn't even keen on them and he isn't British either.

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