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any semi-auto suggestions for me?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by ns66, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. ns66

    ns66 Well-Known Member

    I am pretty new to firearm, just recently bought a walther pk380 as my first gun, I have smaller hands and not a lot of strength so pk380 was chosen because that's the gun I can rack the slide easily. I am thinking getting a semi-auto rifle, must be as light weight and easy to handle as possible, since I figure even the best firearm if I can't handle it well it will be useless to me. I looked at ar-15 but it seems too many different types? I am also very interested in PS90, but all these seem to be still on the heavy side, any suggestions?

  2. Darkbob

    Darkbob Well-Known Member

    For a first gun I'd suggest getting a .22. The one I have is a Ruger 10/22, and I'm very happy with it. It's small, lightweight, and cheap to shoot.

    Another good choice is a Marlin model 60. I don't have one, but folks always seem to have good things to say about them.

    An AR-15 is a good choice if you want more power than a .22 offers.
  3. Matthew Courtney

    Matthew Courtney Well-Known Member

    Smith and Wesson M&P 15 Sport 5.56 - 6.45 lbs - $625
    Smith and Wesson M&P 15/22 .22lr - 5.5 lbs - $499
    Bushmaster Superlight Carbine 5.56 - 5.1 lbs - $699
  4. sirgilligan

    sirgilligan Well-Known Member

  5. ns66

    ns66 Well-Known Member

    thank you all for the suggestions, I will definitely look them up
    I also saw this Bushmaster Carbon 15 R97S Rifle, only 4.4lb without mag
  6. 303tom

    303tom member

    How about one of these ?
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2013
  7. imac98374

    imac98374 Well-Known Member

  8. boricua9mm

    boricua9mm Well-Known Member

    After having owned all manner of semi-auto magazine fed rifles over the years, I've come to terms that if someone was to only own one rifle, then a good AR15 would be the wisest choice.

    If light weight was my number 1 priority, I would go with a lightweight profile barrel (huge difference in my experience), a flat top upper receiver with an added rear sight to eliminate the carry handle; a folding sight gives you more flexibility if you decide to add optics later. A set of Carbine handguards (not M4) would give you a nice slim profile and be very lightweight. Using a CAR stock instead of the M4 stock will also save some weight. The end result would be a very handy, quick carbine that still offers you some modularity down the road. Of course, you'd probably have to put together this package, but you should be able to find an upper meeting this criteria already built. Buying a lower and sorting out the furniture would be your only other hurdle. Would be well worth the "hassle" IMO.
  9. Water-Man

    Water-Man Well-Known Member

    Ruger Mini 14
  10. almherdfan

    almherdfan Well-Known Member

    Ruger 10/22-easy to handle, cheap to shoot/purchase, will last, can modify to your heart's content, accurate enough for plinking, hunting, even SD if necessary.

    If you want a centerfire, there are probably a dozen very good choices, depending on use, budget, comfort, ability to modify, etc. The AR, Ruger Mini, or even an SKS may work.
  11. ugaarguy

    ugaarguy Moderator Staff Member

    I liked the Kel Tec Sub 2000 I had, but I wouldn't recommend one for someone of limited strength. They're straight blowback, so the recoil spring in the stock tube is rather stout, and the charging handle is rather small.

    The locked breech SU16 series are far easier to manipulate. If you go with an SU16, I'd look at the B, C, and CA models for their much sturdier & more precise AR-15/M16 style front sights, as compared to the wide & odd to adjust orange plastic blade on the A model. The B has a longer sight radius (than the C & CA), but the C & CA have all parkerized steel parts.

    All that said, the S&W M&P15 Sport in the low $600 range (only slightly more than the Kel Tecs) is hard to beat. It's probably the best value to be had in a $600 semi-auto rifle.
  12. USAF_Vet

    USAF_Vet Well-Known Member

    I like the idea of using a .22 for smaller, weaker, less experienced shooters. The cost of the rifle and ammo is such that you can turn a non-experience shooter into a well-experienced shooter for not a lot of money in a short amount of time. Also, I don't care who you are, I'm not volunteering to get shot with a .22.
    Considering the cost of the SU-16 rifles, you can get a decent AR for a little more. the SU-16C can be fired from the folded stock position, which gives it an edge over the rest, IMO, but I can't imagine having decent accuracy firing like that. An M4gergy would be my top recommendation for anyone in need of a lightweight rifle. I'm going to start looking more heavily at the polymer receiver ARs for an ultralight build.
    I think New Frontier is advertising their lowers boast a 7.5 Oz weight difference over the aluminum billet receivers.

    303Tom, I know I've seen one of those before, but I can't recall exactly what it is.
  13. ns66

    ns66 Well-Known Member

    thanks all for the suggestions, happy new year!
  14. jwgml

    jwgml Member

    ruger 10-22
  15. ns66

    ns66 Well-Known Member

    I think I would get an AR-15 because this will be my only rifle that I would buy for both practice and HD. I looked at Bushmaster SuperLight Carbine with Red Dot it seems to be pretty much what I am looking for, 5.1lbs that's pretty lightweight, I just can't find anything ligher it seems for an AR-15? I am not sure about the red dot sight or stay with folding sight
  16. tundraotto

    tundraotto Well-Known Member

    AR platform is the only sensible choice...infinately customizable to however one wants it - and with great accuracy and reliability to be had by all.
  17. ugaarguy

    ugaarguy Moderator Staff Member

    Ns66, the Bushmaster Superlight is a variant of their Carbon-15 rifles, and utilizes carbon reinforced polymer upper & lower receivers to cut weight. The polymer uppers in particular are not known for strength & durability. The included red dot is a pretty cheap Bushnell model. Bushmaster also only warrants their firearms for one year.

    The S&W M&P15 Sport can be found for a little less money. At 6.45 lbs it's a little bit heavier than the plastic receiver Bushmaster, but still quite light for a semi-auto rifle. Build quality & durability on S&W's AR-15 style rifles are excellent, which I think is quite important for your intended uses. The included fixed sights are top quality, so it's ready to go until you can add a high quality red dot if you choose to go that route. S&W has a one year warranty that then transfers to their Lifetime Service Policy (lifetime warranty) as long as you fill out the registration card & mail it in within 30 days of purchase.

    I hope this helps.
  18. ns66

    ns66 Well-Known Member

    i will take a look at S&W M&P15 Sport see how heavy it's, thanks all for the suggestions

    by the way, I am not going to have any heavy use of AR-15, hopefully 2012 is a peaceful year :D, so i guess Carbon-15 should be ok as well, don't know about quality of Bushmaster product though
  19. sgtstryker

    sgtstryker Well-Known Member

    I personally feel Bushmaster is as good as most, better than some. The selection is good for someone like yourself, deciding for a first AR..I recently bought a Doublestar lower and put a DPMS flattop upper on it. It was the most cost effective way for me to go. The DS Co. is in KY. and seem to be catching a good reputation for affordability and quality. Good luck, you have a fun decision to make..
  20. kfgk14

    kfgk14 Well-Known Member

    BCM AR-15 lower, put a rimfire upper on it for now. When you've perfected your marksmanship skills and are comfortable stepping up, buy a mil-spec upper from a reputable manufacturer.

    Allow the links to demonstrate:
    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Lower-Receiver-Groups-M4-AR15-s/117.htm-BCM complete lower receiver. Built to mil-spec, so it's very well-made and you can count on it down the road as a platform for building further AR-15's.
    http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/ar22-22lr-conversion-Tactical Solutions upper. I'd suggest the AR22-M4 upper, as you'll want to learn on iron sights first. You'll also want a rear sight, a Magpul MBUS2 rear sight will serve you just fine.
    You'll also want some magazines, I'd suggest CMMG's mags or the offerings from Black Dog Machine.

    When you want to step up to centerfire, check out this:
    http://palmettostatearmory.com/23929.php-the MOE MBUS option would work great for you as well, just buy a few good mil-spec mags with Magpul followers.

    For further info on the AR-15 platform, join M4carbine.net. They're far more knowledgeable and dedicated than I am over there, and they'll introduce you to all the goodies.

    Of course, you may just want a Ruger 10/22 with some Tech Sights, that setup will total under $300 while the above AR will reach $800 fast.

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