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Anyone here shoot a White Muzzleloader?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Rattus58, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Rattus58

    Rattus58 Well-Known Member

    Anyone here shooting a White muzzleloader of any persuasion?

    Thanks in Advance....

    Aloha.. :cool:
  2. kBob

    kBob Well-Known Member

    Well my Father in law threatened to have a white shotgun at the wedding.

    Or were you talking about the rare confederate snow troops model?

    Sorry these things just come over me from time to time.......

  3. Rattus58

    Rattus58 Well-Known Member

    No... was talking about White Muzzleloaders produced by Doc White from Utah. The barrel is patterned after the Whitworth/Alexander Henry barrels of the 1860 in a 1:20 twist .451 bore diameter. Most had .003 to .0035 groove diameters and for bullets like the 457121 or "whitworth" bullets some made was extremely accurate.

    Where Doc made his mark was sizing his bullets to bore diameter (.451) and letting the bullet fill the shallow grooves for stability. We use over powder wads to minimize flameover and leading with these heavy bullets. By keeping them boresized, the bullets were finger loaded and didn't deform on loading and stayed upright in the bore centered, so the theory is because there was no "hammering" going on to load it and unlike bullest that were restricted at the base for easy loading, it is not certain that they didn't can't in the barrel as the engraving ring took to the grooves. In any event, bullets like the real and some buffalo bullets were never as accurate as our bore sized bullets. I preferred to size my bullets to .452 (my volunteer turned out to be such and these worked great in the .451 White.

    A friend, John Mosely, had a gas check mold made for his white that I had copied. This casts a 470 grain pure lead bullet and is extremely accurate. One thing that happened once was that I was shooting one afternoon and I had forgotten my overpowder wads and my first shot was in the black.... the second was about a foot low, and those following printed all over the paper... only two out of 25 touched the black... so as I was wrapping up my session, I discovered a box of Moselyes copper cruisers and decided to just shoot one for the grins.... and LO.... straight into the black... and followed by most of the rest ... and i'm convinced "scraped out" the majority of the lead on the first shot.`

    It was a simple inline that developed a sort of cult following. I've three of them that I shoot heavy conicals from and hunt with. My other favorite, maybe even moreso, is a 58 caliber green mountain bedded into an old stock I found (thompson I think) and to which I carved out space to put a siler lock. I had to fill large voids in the lock/barrel channel with marine tex and this made for a "custom fit" of the lock... :)

    Anyways was wondering...

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