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(AR Build Project) "Top Tier" AR manufacturer for upper with flip sights?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kentucky, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Based upon some research I have been doing lately I have decided to assemble a "top tier" level AR. I have already purchased a Sabre Defense complete lower. Next step is a barreled upper. I have looked primarily at LMT, BCM, and Noveske so far. What I am looking for is:

    -Chrome Lined
    -1/7 Twist
    -5.56 Chamber
    -16" Midlength

    This one at G&R is what I want except I would really like to have a flip-up front sight. I have looked on all three of those manufacturers websites and I cant find where any of them make an upper without the fixed front sight. Can anyone point me to where I can find one, or a better option? Or do I need to just live with the standard front sight post?

    The rest of the rifle will be completed with a BCM bolt, carrier, and charging handle. Havent decided on any particular handguards yet, or flash suppressor.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2008
  2. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    Why don't you call the distributor and ask if they will sub in a flip front sight? You could even do it yourself, assuming you know how to operate a hammer and a punch.
  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I have emailed them, I just thought the THR community might have some input on this idea, or some wise old man here might explain to me why I am foolish for even considering it and set me straight :)
  4. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    Well, the way I see it is this: if you want it, get it. If you need it, get it. It would be nice to have the distributor change the front sight for you, but it is something you can do if they won't or want to charge you for it. I would get one if your optics aren't tall enough. Personally I'd stick with the standard front sight unless it was blocking the bottom half of the sight picture.
  5. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    kentucky, you realize the "noveske" you're looking at is really only a noveske barrel that grant puts together. I'm sure if you ask, he'll be happy to assemble a noveske barrel in any config you want, including quad rail, flip sights, etc.

    (edit: that's not meant to disparage the build in anyway... i'm sure it's a great product, good deal)
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Well yes, I mean it is Noveske parts, he is just assembling it from what I understand. From what I have been reading Noveske is supposed to produce very good barrels? I shot him an email asking him about it, I am sure he will respond soon.
  7. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    Let us know what he says, but I'm willing to guess he'll say they're the best.
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I didnt make myself clear. I mean I sent him an email asking him about configuring it with a flip up front sight.

    Do you have any opinions about a better supplier?
  9. Tarvis

    Tarvis Well-Known Member

    Better suppliers.. hmmm, I've used m-aparts.com and del-ton.com but they aren't exactly first rate top-of-the-line distributors. Del-ton.com is almost all DPMS while m-aparts.com is LMT receivers with wilson barrels. There is some skepticism on which receivers LMT sells to m-a, but they have a LMT inspection tag and some of the boxes have a ship-from address from LMT. I recommend getting a BCG separately as their standard BCG's are from a "current military contractor" and may or may not have been shot peened and MPI'ed. I haven't had any problems with them, but I didn't get very many bullets down the pipe before I sold the rifles.

    I'm sure there are many distributors out there that do business with integrity and good ethics, the major difference will probably be where the parts come from, how much you pay and how much the like talking on the phone (read customer service).
  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I do plan to get the bolt separately, this is the one I am looking at right now.

    Also, I just got an email back from Grant saying that he only offers the Noveske uppers with the fixed FSB, so I guess I am back to looking.
  11. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    well, i KNOW you can get a noveske upper from noveske w/o a fixed front sight because i have one on order myself.

    otherwise, check into larue's stealth uppers
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Thanks taliv,

    S&R in Algood is a Noveske dealer according to the Noveske website, I may swing by there and ask them after work.
  13. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    edit: kentucky, if you're in the neighborhood, swing by and shoot with us like you did for the mini TN get together last year.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2008
  14. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    The reason that flip front sights aren't usually offered is because they are often set-screw affairs and this can shift or come loose with hard use (though I use mine hard and haven't seen it yet). All of the rifles you are looking at are generally marketed to the crowd that is concerned about maximum reliability.

    The fixed front sights are offered because they are the most reliable. IIRC, there are some flip front gas blocks that are pinned; but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

    Another option is to use a pinned low-profile gas block and a rail mounted flip front sight.
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I would love to! When are ya'll shooting now?

    Thanks for your input. I will do a little studying on your last suggestion. I may just need to stick with the fixed front sight post because reliability IS my #1 goal here. If you dont mind me asking, what sights are you using that are working well for you?
  16. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    I am using the PRI flip front gas block; but I had it installed by someone who I trust (MSTN) even though I can do it myself.
  17. atomd

    atomd Well-Known Member

    It looks like it's not in stock at the moment but here:

    They sell some other ones that are close to what you are looking for too like the LMT MRP uppers which they seem to have in stock. The Larue stealth uppers are certainly "top tier" also (if you can get a hold of one). They are all around the same price once you add sights to the ones that don't come with them.
  18. twofourthree73

    twofourthree73 Well-Known Member

    This is what I'd do if I had to have a flip front sight. I'd free float the barrel with some 4 rail handguards and put a sight on the rail.

  19. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    heh, well, a couple of the regulars just bought those cdnn special FN $399 bolt guns, so some of us have been shooting every day.

    but usually, sat and/or sun. (edit: prob both days this weekend, and i may take fri off and shoot too)

    my cell phone hasn't changed, if you still have the PM from last year
  20. KC&97TA

    KC&97TA Well-Known Member

    A few months back I finished a " SAM-R " Clone'ish upper for my wife... honestly, the $190 GG&G front sight has never been used, it's there for looks, I still need to get a KAC or an Arms 40 to fit under the scope then maybe I'll shoot it on Irons, this was quite the expensive build and the scope/mount combo will be replaced for something a little more authentic. The upper was build to make use of a NM rifle, but something normal wasn't an option.

    FWIW: When I build another 16" upper it will have this build list and I'll go with a free float rail mounted front sight.

    Flat Top Upper
    Standard Chargeing handle
    M16 BCG, MP Bolt
    16" chrome lined barrel with 203 contour, A2 comp
    MI Mid Length Free Float rails
    PRI low profile gas block
    GG&G or MI rail mounted flip up front sight

    Just my $0.02 - build you're own, they're a sick addiction and you get exactly what you want, it's not that hard, it's just intimidateing at first to work on something that goes boom, or buy the upper you want and swap the front sights. My first upper build was a total crap shoot of miss matched parts, to build a 18" SPR, great upper, ugly, but a true shooter, build it because I had ' an extra ' ACOG I didn't know what to do with, LOL.

    edited for picture and to add:

    DPMS will do custom uppers, you're going to be waiting as they're 30k uppers behind I'm told.

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