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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by 30mag, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    Explain to me why ARs come in so many different parts (upper receiver, lower receiver, what have you...) and how I could be exempt from an AWB by buying parts now.

    I'm 18... so, I don't know if that makes a difference.
  2. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    Oh, and I probably can't afford a complete one off the starting line.
  3. FMF

    FMF Well-Known Member

    glad you're looking into the AR. They come in so many different parts because there are many different options and people love to personalize.
  4. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    Ok, what's the difference?
    I just want a general purpose AR, nothing special.. I like cheap.
  5. FMF

    FMF Well-Known Member

    difference? Woo boy you could go for days. Try a forum like M4carbine.net or ar15.com to see what other people have built for themselves.

    Panther Arms (DPMS) has several well built, inexpensive ARs. Not exactly top shelf but they get the job done.
  6. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    Well, I have a long way to go before I'm better than my guns.
  7. SoCalShooter

    SoCalShooter Well-Known Member

    Because it is a modular weapon system. Meaning it can be configured in just about any configuration you can think of and as soon as they can get laser's turned into weapons like in star wars I a will soon after have an AR laser upper :)
  8. cbrgator

    cbrgator Well-Known Member

    As you don't have experience with AR's yet, if I were you I would buy a complete lower receiver (the part the government considers the actual firearm) from a company like Stag, RRA, S&W or Bushmaster. They run $250-300 and are all pretty much the same. The real differences are in the upper but you can do research as to what you want in the meantime while you get the lower.
  9. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    That is exactly what I wanted to hear.
    Thank you very much.

    Sorry for being vague.
  10. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    So, I buy this, and I could get grandfathered in, right?

    And I don't have an FFL, so who sells lower receivers..? Stagarms site says you have to FFL to have a lower receiver shipped to you.
    I live in a small rural town, we don't really have gun shops here.
    Traveling to DFW wouldn't be a big deal though.
  11. Plas62

    Plas62 Member

    You should check out AR15.com there are several reputable dealers on there that you could get a good price on a lower from via thier website. Then you will just need to find a local FFL to accept the shipment and handle the tranfer.

    I just bought a new Stag 2L and saved about $150 going through a dealer rather than direct from Stag.
  12. cbrgator

    cbrgator Well-Known Member

    Because the lower is considered the firearm, it will have to be shipped to an FFL for you to pick up from there. The FFL holders usually charge 20-30 bucks to do the transfer. This website will give you a list of FFL holders in your area. http://gunbroker.com/User/DealerNetwork.asp
    When you order your lower you will give them the FFL shipping address. The upper receiver does not have to be shipped to an FFL and you can receive that at your front door.
  13. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    Alright. Sweet.
  14. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    Go to Brownells.com and order their FREE AR catalog. All kinds of options you never knew you needed until you saw them in there.

    Build your own lower. Just did my first one, took me an hour.

    No one knows whether or not it will be legal after the ban because the ban doesn't exist. No one knows what it will or won't allow. (If it ever happens.)
  15. Dr. Fresh

    Dr. Fresh Well-Known Member

    Something I've always wondered: Do you call up your FFL and tell/ask them about having a firearm shipped to them, or do you just do it? What's the etiquette?
  16. JonB

    JonB Well-Known Member

    Definitely call them and let them know what you want to do and what you are ordering, talk about what they charge for the transfer, etc, etc.

    You may also have to ask them to fax their license to the place you are buying it from so they have it on record. Most places will know the drill, but I would definitely take the few minutes to call and chat with them.
  17. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    You also have to decide if it's worth it to have it shipped, rather than buying it locally. Your local shop might have a stripped lower for $150, then you find the same one online for $120. WOOHOO!. Then your FFL guy charges you $20, and shipping, plus you have to wait for it to get there. What was the advantage again?
  18. Dr. Fresh

    Dr. Fresh Well-Known Member

  19. 30mag

    30mag Well-Known Member

    So, I just tried to sign up with AR15.com, but 'anonymous' e-mail services (hotmail, yahoo, gmail) aren't allowed.
    What gives?
  20. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    We don't know yet, it depends on how a future AWB is written (assuming we even get one).

    Being only 18 you won't be able to buy an AR lower from a dealer, you'll have to buy a complete rifle.

    The new 4473 has a checkbox for "lower" now, and they are regulating them just like handguns (since you could build an AR pistol). So you'll have to be 21.

    Read this thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=401265

    Now the $64 question is; Is a complete lower (with stock) now a rifle and not just a lower?

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