Are the new Smith Classics better made?

[Guillermo]

FYI, go to the user control panel and on the left side you can edit your "ignore" list

Good luck

 

[JohnBT]

"The fact remains that charcoal, carbona and Carbonia bluing are one and the same. Perhaps with minor variations between manufacturers but both manufacturers"

And with some major variations, like S&W's process. You say "one and the same", the evidence says otherwise.

Heck, you can get different finishes from one oven by using different kinds of charcoal. I hope nobody is thinking guns are blued with Kingsford.

John

 

[CraigC]

What evidence? Obviously, there will always be variations but the processes are easily grouped. The fact that Colt has a special name for their "Royal Blue" does not change the fact that it is a hot salt process. The fact that Colt and S&W used different ingredients and levels of polish does not change the fact that the two processes fall under "charcoal blue". Or what is also referred to by current professionals Doug Turnbull and Hamilton Bowen as "carbona". What USFA refers to as "Armory blue". The fact that Turnbull's and Colt's color case hardening differ from each other in end result does not change the fact that they are still variations of the same process. Same for cyanide case coloring. I have never argued that the results of any of these processes was the same, that the color was the same or that the level of polish was the same, only that the processes themselves were similar enough to be grouped together by anybody you ask. Unless you consider Bowen and Turnbull to be morons. Now if what Turnbull and Bowen refer to as charcoal/carbona blue is different from what Colt used to do, that is not my problem. Since Ole Fluffer has decided to either keep the information to himself or simply does not possess the information and since the information is apparently readily available, I invite anyone to offer up "evidence".

All of which is completely tangent to the discussion. The fact remains that there is no reason why S&W can't offer a finish like the above-pictured USFA, which is superior in every way to any of my alleged "Carbonia"-finished S&W's. Charcoal blue, antique or modern, is a different animal entirely. However, I would also like to point out that in Turnbull's fee schedule, there is only a $100 increase for charcoal over hot salt blue.

 

[Guillermo]

I am learning from this discussion about blueing processes.

Old Fuff...come back and join this discussion. If you do I might let you Fitz one of my Diamondbacks.

 

[Slamfire]

I think the classic pistol is a great idea. A fixed sight big bore revolver is an excellent self defense weapon. Yes, you only have six shots, but those are big bullets and the platform is hard to put out of order.

I think Clint Smith had a part in the issuing of the Classic series, and I think S&W and Clint hit a home run bringing the concept back.

Local gunstore had a great sale on S&W's, I could have purchased one of the fixed sight 44 Specials, but I always wanted a 4" 45 LC. So I purchased this M625.

It is a fine pistol. I prefer the hammer mounted firing pin for ignition reliability, but otherwise it is just fine.

 

[Smith357]

The fact also remains that we can't blame the EPA for S&W's current finishes

So then who was it that forced heavy industry in this country to install scrubbers on their stacks, regulated how and where to dispose of waste, and all those many other pesky little government regulations that has driven the cost of doing business in this country since the 60s?