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ARs prices are dropping like crazy

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nathan, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Hapworth

    Hapworth Well-Known Member

    What I love is how many of them are trying to sell those same Colts and Bushmasters at the same ridiculous prices now and saying they "only want to sell it for what they have in it".
  2. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Well-Known Member

    That's good that the prices are dropping. The thing about antigun people is that they just drive demand in people who never even considered buying guns before. I know people who had no inkling of buying one until this discussion started. As opposed to achieving their goals, they contributed to more people joining the pool of lawful citizens who do want to protect themselves. We all know how hard it is to wait for help to come when the SHTF. It's better to have it and not need it.

    As for the ammo, the hoarding will slow down. It has stimulated the economy more than one can imagine for gun and ammo dealers.

    For the folks who were selling their guns well above what they paid, it was a good run for them. Sure they made their buck. Who can blame them? No worries. For the ones thinking they will sell for a high price now, well, They'll put it into their safe and be none the richer. Just like the real estate bubble.
  3. basicblur

    basicblur Well-Known Member

    Our local 'no haggle' gun shop has always kept his prices low.
    His rack is now almost full of a wide range of ARs - he has stated he needs to cut back on his future AR orders.

    Talked to him today - someone won? a KelTec KSG at a recent Friends of NRA dinner, but still hasn't picked it up. They wanted the shop to sell it for them for the inflated prices he reports seeing at online sites.

    The owner refused - he says even though it's not the shop price gouging, many folks would not / could not differentiate, and his reputation would suffer.
    BTW - the KSG owner kept telling the owner he was seeing $2600 tags on the KSG online. The owner told him it's about a $600 or so gun, and if he wanted anything more than that, he should pick it up and sell it online for whatever he wants.

    I love my local gun shop! :D
  4. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Well-Known Member

    I suspect that there are two main groups who bought high:

    One group would be the people who bought with the intent to own (based on the political climate and potential future unavailability) and who will kick themselves for having bought when the market was so high. But these people will likely bite the bullet on the loss, since they intended to keep the gun(s) anyway.

    The other group would be the people who bought with the intent to sell later. These people are likely not only kicking themselves for having bought so high...and learning what it's like to be a long term owner of something they never really wanted anyway.

    I'm sure some of the first group found themselves overextending their budgets and would like to recoup that. But them's the chances you take any time the market reacts like it did and people buy high.

  5. basicblur

    basicblur Well-Known Member

    Well I'm kicking myself - I kept saying I should have sold a few of mine during the panic and replace 'em when the drought was over.

    Too late now... :banghead:
  6. Silverado6x6

    Silverado6x6 Well-Known Member

    Used to just see a local gun show every couple of months, now its every other week at various locations like a high school, community center or the local sports complex.

    Every other week, and they are packed.

    I bet Obama has a strategy to pass out "stimulus" to the gun shows just like he did to everything else that got a stimulus...and failed.
  7. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

  8. ngnrd

    ngnrd Well-Known Member

    Did I just hear a bubble pop?
  9. Bruno2

    Bruno2 Well-Known Member

    Looked like there was only 1 for sale.
  10. justice06rr

    justice06rr Well-Known Member

    Some companies did raise their prices based on demand, etc.

    For example Smith and Wesson M&P Sport were around $699 pre-panic. They have since gone up to $839 MSRP which is what I paid for mine last month. I verified this on the official S&W website.

    They will come down a bit eventually, but I fear we will never really see the "good ol days" again. Ammo has gone up a bit too; a few dollars per box due to inflation and demand.
  11. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

  12. ol' scratch

    ol' scratch Well-Known Member

    It is good to see. My next build is going to be a 6.5 Grendel. I have the lowers already. I am also going to get some more 80 percent lowers and a new jig. My future AR builds will be my business only. I am sick of politicians who don't know what they are talking about trying to ban things they don't understand.
  13. Bullz

    Bullz Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't worry too much about the long term price of ammo and weapons. The market is getting pretty saturated. Over the last couple months I've been doing some research and formulating some business and pricing models around starting a new ammo factory. The long and sort of it as it pertains to current ammo pricing is this: 5.56 can be made and sold for approximately $0.25 per round (Direct sales/wholesale only) including a 25% markup over materials and overhead. That's what the steel case russian stuff sold for pre panic. FWIW, the price per round goes up to $0.30 - $0.35 with distribution costs to stores like walmart, etc.

    Which means that the market will move back to that pricing if it can be profitably made and sold at that price - which I now know it can be. Otherwise, some people are going to get together and start a profitable ammo company because there is a lot of room for profit between $0.25/round and the current pricing on 5.56. Keep in mind, $0.25/round ammo is nothing more than a basic quality grade range/plinking ammo... but I think that's anyone wants in bulk. Just some affordable training fodder. I also looked at 9mm, .45 and .308.

    The take away is... put aside your worries and fears because the current market prices on ammo are not sustainable in a capitalistic environment. The fact that Wal-mart never changed their pricing should offer some encouragement as that is the LOWEST price you are going to find in a conventional retail environment - i.e. not wholesale. They still have an empty shelf at my local wal-mart where the $7.38 federal .223 is supposed to get stocked.

    Although I have NOT done similar research on firearms - mostly because I couldn't care less about starting a weapons plant - I would have to believe that the same is true for guns (if not more so).

    So don't be surprised if you see S&W and Ruger offering factory rebates and other such incentives in Q3 2013 to boost sales forecasts. Look for incentives around September and October this year.
  14. biohazurd

    biohazurd Well-Known Member

    Yep. Its getting about that time. To build another AR that is.
  15. justice06rr

    justice06rr Well-Known Member

    Yep, its a good time to start those builds again. Just be patient and try to get parts in stock.

    I actually built a Spikes AR15 during the panic for under $1k. Took a little while though as the BCG was the hardest thing to find at the time.
  16. Bill Jones

    Bill Jones Active Member

    I have been wanting a Colt 6920 for about a year and waited too long. I refused to pay the locally inflated prices so I have been casually looking at online auctions. I found one Saturday, new in the box. Even after shipping and paying for the FFL transfer it was cheaper than the local Wal-Mart after taxes.
  17. freebird

    freebird Well-Known Member

    So what is a good price on a Colt 6920? I am on a 3 day hold at Wal-Mart for the one I tried to purchase last night. $1147 is the price they had on it. Is that still too high?
  18. OilyPablo

    OilyPablo Well-Known Member

    Gun show was $1099 (new) for 6920 last Saturday. Not sure how many he had. To me it seemed like a sure pre-banic price.
  19. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Well-Known Member

    That sounds right.

    I think freebird is looking at the Magpul 6920. It's the same at my Walmart.
  20. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    That is a pretty good price. I got a Magpul edition M4/LE6920 for $1050 pre-panic.

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