Arsenal now defined as numerous magazines

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I like the idea of an email correcting inaccuracies and so you might want to consider rewording the statement on law enforcement and "civilians" since LE are civilians, too...
 
Joseph Vince, a retired ATF agent, agrees.
"It's not something that you would need for home protection, because what you are trying to do is eliminate an immediate threat," Vince says. "The idea of killing is what this ammunition portrays to me."

For home defense you certainly want HPs. Hollow points are made for self-defense. They're made to expand quickly, stop in the body and not pass thru so they can hit someone else. If I have to confront someone in my house and shoot, I don't want a round to go through the BG and pass through the wall board and hit one of my loved ones. I want it to stop in the BGs body.
 
"Virginia Tech families endured, and indeed, the world has endured, a view of life that few of us should or would ever have to endure," said Virginia State Police Officer Steve Flaherty.

I agree with Officer Flaherty. Few of us should ever have to endure that view of life.

Even fewer of us would have had to endure it if Virginia Tech did not prevent people with concealed weapons permits from protecting themselves on its campus.
 
I think Cho was just sick of being made fun of and bullied. Maybe if everyone treated people better, mass murders wouldn't happen.
 
Evidence of bullying? Evidence of being made fun of?

I've seen none and heard of none - but I'll take a stab at it.

I did see the roomate's interview where he described whatshisname talking about his imaginary girlfriend and the cute pet names they had for each other, etc., etc., etc. Maybe she kicked him around and then dumped him. Now that's cruel, if he got dumped by his imaginary girlfriend.

I feel sorry for him; but I'm still angry.

John
 
So because I go shooting every weekend, have multiple rounds of surplus ammunition, and reload my ammo I'm "preparing"? I don't like being off-handedly grouped with this guy

Hey, he's darn tootin' right I'm preparing, though! I'm preparing to toe off with someone like Cho, in the event that the need arises. I'd rather not be a hapless action hero, thanks - I don't carry 2lb+ around on my hip all day, every day, hidden from view, as a fashion statement, and I'd like to be prepared ("always be prepared"!) if I come up against someone else who has trained!
 
17 mags? I'm pretty sure I've seen action shooters that carry more than that on thier belts at competition. And that wouldn't be counting the ones probably sitting at home.
 
Excuse me, but what would a tax agent know anyway?

Another of F-Troop's finest. *eyeroll*
 
If indeed that monster fired 200 shots, he must not have really prepared or practiced that much if he only killed 33 people

CNN showed tonight that he fired 225 times, hitting most victims 3 times. 32 x 3 = 96. Hmmm ..... he was no good shot at all. Musta trained with LAPD or NYPD, from reports on them we know they can't hit anyone within 10 feet of them. :p
 
Self Defense Ammo

I have some boxes of ammo in .357, .38 spl, 9mm, and .40 S&W, and they all have something in common:
  • they all cost more than practice (target) ammo;
  • they are ALL hollowpoints;
  • and every one of the boxes says SELF DEFENSE in big letters.
So if hollowpoints are inappropriate for self-defense, shouldn't someone tell the ammo makers about that?
 
It is pretty irrelevant, since the guy was too crazy to be irrational, but he ranted about "the rich." Sounds like he had a pretty significant investment in mags and ammo, not to mention the cost of the two guns. I wonder where he got the money? I'd bet he offed himself still owing MC or Visa a chunk of change.
 
While in this case I do get the impression that his intent was to use an many of those as possible:

Just for the sake of discussion. I am assuming that none of us have ever gone on a killing rampage :scrutiny:

so I think it would be interesting to know how many magazines everybody has. I have a lot because I figure if an emergency situation came up, it might be handy to have them in case some break.

I'll start:

Glock 22 mags - 22
Glock 27 mags - 14
Glock 23 mags - 10
Total - 46 mags (I'm not counting the 2 mags each I have for my .22 plinker rifle and .22 plinker pistol)

They just all stay in the safe except for 2 of the Glock 27 mags.
 
"It's not something that you would need for home protection, because what you are trying to do is eliminate an immediate threat," Vince says. "The idea of killing is what this ammunition portrays to me."

oh boy.....this is just so sad :(

I mean....***...I...um....is that guy at all human??? How can you be such a moron??? And why does the media quote morons?!?!?!?? And why do I use up good bandwith quoting a moron quoted in the media??? So sad.....
 
That is a scary arsenal of magazines that you have there Economist. I'd have to go count but I think I have about three to four mags per mag fed weapon.
 
Phaetos, Cho hit more people than just the 33 that died. I'm not sure how many were also wounded, but it was a not-insignificant number.

Say an equal number of wounded as those who died. So, we have 66 victims, multilied by 3 shots each, that gives us 198 shots fired.
 
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