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Background check question-AZ

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by JP from Phoenix, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. JP from Phoenix

    JP from Phoenix Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to get my first handgun, I was going to get a Taurus Tracker .357 they did the check and they said i had to wait till Aug 2nd. Aug 2nd rolls by and still no answer the shop i was going to get the gun from said they havnt heard nothing back so i have to wait. I went to another shop today and they said after 3 days and you are not denied you are automatically cleared to get the gun. My question is who is right? I'm getting a little antsy and want to pick something up.

    Another question how does this apply to internet sales because the people at one shop told me if the check isnt clear when the gun comes they have to send it back to whereever it came from at my expense. I don't know if they are just trying to get me to buy something from them or if they are being straight with me. First time buyer, pretty green with this stuff
  2. Outlaws

    Outlaws Well-Known Member

    So you are buying the gun from another state via internet to your FFL? What state?
  3. JP from Phoenix

    JP from Phoenix Well-Known Member

    no what happened was I was gonna buy a Tracker from the store, they did a background check they said wait till aug 2nd. aug 2nd went and passed and i didn't hear anything. I decided against the tracker and want a GP-100, i havnt decided if im gonna get it through the store or get it through the net. I'll probably save money through the net but if its a hassle I'll just pay the extra money and get it through the store. I went to another shop and they told me if on the 2nd if the background people didn't give me a thumbs down or say wait longer than i'm good to go to buy what i want. I don't know whos right or wrong
  4. txgho1911

    txgho1911 Well-Known Member

    This reads like you where delayed. When they call in and a computer problem is present you will be delayed. If there is any question about your identity you can be delayed. If your name is the same or similar to a convicted felon you may be delayed while they look closer or dig deeper. For similarities they are likely to deny or deny while it is delayed. Once they delay they have 3 full days to get an answer back to the shop or you can go pick it up.
    Most shops do not make the BG call until the pistol has been sold. Guns are like cars. they may lose significant value when you pick it up. Others only grow in value. If you bought it now you may face a restocking fee.
  5. JP from Phoenix

    JP from Phoenix Well-Known Member

    ^so does that mean i'm good and they just didn't push the issue because i didn't pay for a gun yet? Seems to me like they might be acting shady because I asked about a GP-100 they they do not stock and they said they can special order for 519 plus tax and i asked about doing a transfer instead to save me some cash. See I don't know if they just dont know policy or what because all they said is they havnt heard back from the background check people which you and the dude from the other shop means i'm clear. I want that GP!
  6. EOD Guy

    EOD Guy Well-Known Member

    When you are delayed and nothing comes back for three business days, the dealer has the option of releasing the firearm to the buyer. It is not mandatory that they do so and some dealers will not release a firearm unless they get the OK from NICS.
  7. panther22

    panther22 Well-Known Member

    If this is your first time going through a check, you almost always get delayed. In fact, if you haven't bought in a long time, you usually get delayed.
    If the store won't sell to you without an OK from NICS, I beleive there is a number they can call and get the go-ahead on you. If they want your business, they need to start acting like it.
  8. 2400

    2400 Well-Known Member

    Which shop in Phx was it?
  9. Bilt4Comfort

    Bilt4Comfort Well-Known Member

    You should be able to purchase a GP100 from SW, Cabela's, or even BPS today if that's what you want. Personally, I have never had to wait longer than 15 minutes to buy a gun at a retail shop.
  10. BBQJOE

    BBQJOE Well-Known Member

    I have also never had any wait time to purchase in AZ.
    Something doesn't sound right to me.
    Unless you are trying to pull something off.
  11. JP from Phoenix

    JP from Phoenix Well-Known Member

    Well i dont live exactly in Phoenix it was a shop in Surprize off off grand ave but i believe the B&D place i think its called in Glendale told me how the protocall on the background check goes. great bunch of guys over there at the glendale shop. I'd buy from them but they only accept cash, i plan on charging this sucker and paying later
  12. FlaXD

    FlaXD Well-Known Member

    I've never been delayed the first time I've purchased a gun.;)

    If you're buying somewhere else, the FFL you are transferring to doesn't know if you've actually purchased the gun yet or not. They do the BG check and when it's ok they fax the required paperwork to the seller. None of the places I've bought from would ship until they received the ok from the FFL.

    When I've bought from a store, they've always done the BG before ringing up the sale.

    That's the way it's been for me. Of course, it might differ for everyone else.
  13. Outlaws

    Outlaws Well-Known Member

    That is not true on any level. I have been with many people their first time buying a gun. You might have something in your background or something in your state causing a hold up.
  14. Prince Yamato

    Prince Yamato Well-Known Member

    Umm... not at all. It may SEEM like a long wait though, because not knowing what to expect from a background check is a little nerve-wracking :D
  15. KMBRTAC45

    KMBRTAC45 Well-Known Member

    A good reason to have your CCW permit. No call in checks, no wait time.

    By the way, was the gun store off of Dysart & Grand Ave?
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2007
  16. BigSoundRacing

    BigSoundRacing Well-Known Member

    "A good reason to have your CCW permit. No call in checks, no wait time."

    Is this true in AZ - I just received my AZ CCW, I'll have to try it out with my next paycheck that will finish the last installment on the new pistol.

    I have a name of "initials only", so we always have to call in the early morning while the supervisor is not at lunch.... my name always get bounced to a supervisor, adds an additional five minutes.

    If delayed, they give the dealer a date - if no call before that date/time then you are clear to purchase. The dealer can always call in again.

    Be safe, BSR
  17. KMBRTAC45

    KMBRTAC45 Well-Known Member

    Here is a link to the Az Dept of Public Safety news letter. Scroll to the bottom of the last page and read Arizona is an ATF Alternate State.
  18. BigSoundRacing

    BigSoundRacing Well-Known Member

    That is so cool! thanks for the information!!
  19. JP from Phoenix

    JP from Phoenix Well-Known Member

    Another thing, the store called back about my check after 30 days. That store lost my business for good with their attitude thats for sure. Seems like they were bitter that i got a gun from someone else besides them. They were saying stuff like if i was never cleared on the check that the cops can come and take my gun away from me. Reason i was probably delayed is because i got a misdemenor DUI like a year ago. They were really condescending and rude to me about all of this. They were also saying that if i got delayed than i will never be able to get a CCW permit. I thought they were alright over there but I was wrong, they lost my business for good they can keep their overpriced guns. I wont buy a cleaning brush from these jerks after they talked to me. They also said I can only get a paperweight of a 9mm for under 500 bucks lol yeah maybe if i bought it from them which will never happen. jerks
  20. USAFrenegade

    USAFrenegade Well-Known Member

    In the state of AZ if you are not denied after your waiting period, then yes you automatically qualify. I had the same issue at cabela's in Pheonix with my wife buying a rossi .38 special, 3 days later we hadn't heared anything, so we just went and got it no problems.

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